Right. But where are their tap ? In Internet Exchange Point ? In AS ? And how can they do that ? "Hello, I'm NSA, can I get a TAP on your network" :-) This would say that ISP agree and the amount of data to transfer would be so vast . How can they transfer all this amount of data into their system ??
Le 1 août 2013 à 20:56, Gary Baribault <[email protected]> a écrit : > Optically tapping ALL of the submarine cable going into and out of the U.S. > would still not give them ALL of the claimed data. They have to be tapping > all of the major traffic exchange sites in the U.S. to get this kind of data. > > Gary B > > On 08/01/2013 11:31 AM, XF wrote: > > Did you understood how they > collect data ? This is not clear for me...ISP backdoor ? Optical > tap on sub marine wire ? > > > > > > Le 1 août 2013 à 16:26, Georgi Guninski > <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > > >> it will be interesting to me what will remain of the nsa > > >> when the chinese comrades stop giving fresh money to the > usa. > > >> > > >> Detroit news are not very pink. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:20:27PM +1200, Hugh Davenport > wrote: > > >>> meanwhile, in new zealand, prime minister suggests > that we aren't > > >>> the slaves for nsa... > > >>> > > >>> On 2013-08-01 19:23, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > >>>> XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online > > >>>> > > >>>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/31/prism_put_in_the_shade_by_leak_about_even_more_powerful_snoop_tool/ > > >>>> New NSA tool exposed: XKeyscore sees 'nearly > EVERYTHING you do online' > > >>>> > > >>>> From the presentation: > > >>>> * Show me all the exploitable machines in country > X > > >>>> > > >>>> * How do I find a cell of terrorust that has no > > >>>> connection to known strong-selectors > > >>>> **Anomalous events > > >>>> ***Someone who is using encryption > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > >>>> Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - > http://secunia.com/ > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > >>> Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > >> Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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