On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Gary Baribault <[email protected]> wrote: > Optically tapping ALL of the submarine cable going into and out of the U.S. > would still not give them ALL of the claimed data. They have to be tapping > all of the major traffic exchange sites in the U.S. to get this kind of > data. The US does that.
In 'The Spy Factory' (http://video.pbs.org/video/1051968443/) from 2009, the producers interviewed the AT&T technicians who worked at the COs where the taps occur. They also interviewed a US Army analyst who listen in on the calls. Since the video, there's been a number of documents circulating about the practice. See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_Wind_(code_name). Jeff > On 08/01/2013 11:31 AM, XF wrote: >> Did you understood how they collect data ? This is not clear for me...ISP >> backdoor ? Optical tap on sub marine wire ? >> >> Le 1 août 2013 à 16:26, Georgi Guninski <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> it will be interesting to me what will remain of the nsa >>> when the chinese comrades stop giving fresh money to the usa. >>> >>> Detroit news are not very pink. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:20:27PM +1200, Hugh Davenport wrote: >>>> meanwhile, in new zealand, prime minister suggests that we aren't >>>> the slaves for nsa... >>>> >>>> On 2013-08-01 19:23, Georgi Guninski wrote: >>>>> XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/31/prism_put_in_the_shade_by_leak_about_even_more_powerful_snoop_tool/ >>>>> New NSA tool exposed: XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online' >>>>> >>>>> From the presentation: >>>>> * Show me all the exploitable machines in country X >>>>> >>>>> * How do I find a cell of terrorust that has no >>>>> connection to known strong-selectors >>>>> **Anomalous events >>>>> ***Someone who is using encryption _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
