Actually there is such a thing as SQL for XML.
It's called XQL. Have a search on Google and you'll find it!
Personally your decision not to learn XML is not necessarily a bad one, I do
however think that your reasons are really quite flawed.
Just imagine that you are trying to create a website for any browser, and
you don't want 80 different versions for 80 different browsers. Create an
XML page and just make the XSL (stylesheet) dependant on the browser and
"WOW" you have a website for 80 browsers from one source and several XSL
files.
It's NOT just a glorified database - trust me.
Oh and if you want to use a tag called <CFXML> and not understand XML then I
think you'll be sorely disappointed. There are many nuances in XML (that
aren't that hard to understand such as XPath) that will be necessary to use.
Paul
PS XML is not just a tag markup thing. It has become a whole programming
environment that (it is my belief) could become the only platform we may
ever need (just because it is a framework - a bit like fusebox).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McCollough, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 05 October 2000 16:50
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: XML / XSL editor / CFX / COM object
>
>
> Ok, I promise this will be my LaSt CoMmEnT into this thread, heh
> heh, unless
> somebody really stirs up the pot...
>
> I read the paper posted by Allaire regarding XML, and its 100%
> right on the
> money. XML itself is a scheme for data *storage*. Who cares about how the
> data is stored? Do any of you use a text editor and look at the raw .mdb
> files that SQL data is actually stored in? Do you really care about it at
> that level? No, your concerns are at the next level up, with the SQL, the
> Structured Query Language, that lets you get to the data.
>
> XML has no equivalent to SQL currently, and personally, I'm not
> gonna waste
> time learning XML until such a query language is standardized. You betcha
> there is gonna be a query language developed, and when it happens, you'll
> totally forget about the underlying XML structure itself.
>
> Personally, I think the same is also true for Java. Say what you
> will, Java
> is too dang complex; IMHO, its basically a form of C++ in which the source
> code can be compiled for any target OS. Having given it additional thought
> (at least 3 min. worth), I think in the long run, Allaire's attempt to
> re-code the CFAS to run in Java might not be too bad; it represents the
> viewpoint I'd take that I don't really want to fuss with Java (or C++ for
> that matter) directly. Its sorta like one of those 7-layer OSI
> model things;
> IMHO, both Java and XML are one level deeper than where I care to
> work; and
> really where most folks care to work.
>
> So, HoW DoEs ThIs ApPlY To FuSeBoX???
>
> Plenty! You see, as a developer, you only got 24 hours a day to live. You
> got 5 days to develop a Fusebox app, right? Why waste those 5
> precious days
> reading a 900-page book called "Extreme Cool XML" or "Learn JAVA
> in 5 DAYS!"
> when you shouldn't even have to take a single glance at either XML or Java
> directly?
>
> The guys at Allaire who actually *write* the ColdFusion application, yeah,
> they need to know XML and Java. That way they can design stuff
> that I, as a
> CF developer, can work with. So long as I can call <CFWDDX>, or probably
> soon enuff, <CFXML>, I don't care 1% how it works beyond that
> level. I just
> wanna write code!
>
>
> Alan McCollough
> Web Programmer
> Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
> Alaska Native Medical Center
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Johnston [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:58 AM
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: RE: XML / XSL editor / CFX / COM object
> >
> > First, not everyone likes using Java because of the fact you have to run
> > extra stuff (JVM) on a webserver. {blah blah blad, redacted for brevity}
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