Chris, You never used detoxification as a necessity in any of your posts to me, and your belief that nutrition is a relevant answer was only gleaned from a brief posting you made to Arthur.
You ask have I ever considered the causes of domestic violence. Are you speed reading or something? I grew up with domestic violence. It is passed on in attitude and beliefs from generation to generation. My father got it from his father, who was brought up to believe that men are superior to women and children, and that if they do not obey then you beat them. He was raised in the Ukraine, occupied first by Poland and then ended up in two German concentration camps. Poor nutrition from bad soil did not teach him violence. Before the war, the Ukraine had healthy soil, pesticide free. Sure he was starved in Germany, could have used a big cleanse, but these would never undo his beliefs that eventually caused all of his children, and then his wife to leave him. This is but one story. My mother was also born in the Ukraine; neither parents starved while growing up--they were better provided for than most families. At 18 she was taken to Germany as a work slave for the farms, but fortunately had "nice" slave overseers who loved her good nature and blonde hair. Her parents did not abuse her as a child. My father was beaten regularly. She met my father in a refugee camp, got knocked up first time she did it under rape, and they had a shot-gun wedding in the middle of my father's studies in political economics. He began beating her regularly, even while pregnant. She was led to believe she had no rights--as most slaves and women of her day, and through the years was kept so isolated and tied to her wifely duties that she failed to learn that she didn't have to put up with it, nor suffer through seeing her four kids beaten regularly. Our Pentacostal neighbors on either side of our home heard and even observed the violence regularly, but domestic violence was acceptable in most places back then. She developed colonic cancer. She had an operation. She later developed a diverticular condition. Then she had another operation. She couldn't tolerate chemo. She got serious about cleansing again, and stepped up herbals and had a dramatic change in diet. She was healthy for another few years, then went for a mammogram/chest X-ray. One year later they discovered a small tumour on her lungs, age 73. She was terrified of another operation. I supported that, and helped her through cleanses, herbals and holistic therapies. She lasted five years, made it to the top 5% of colon and lung cancer survivors, with or without allopathic or naturopathic or holistic interference/help. Allopaths stats show 7% of all cancer patients as the average count of those who survive longer than 5 years and alternative therapies boast about the same figure, possibly point two higher. My mother may have had a poor diet contribute to her initial case of cancer, but if you think that diet, cleanses and supplements could ever take away her pain for having been abused by the old man, you are out to lunch. Suppressed anger weakens the immune system. It creates blockage. Where there is no life flow, we develop toxins, create areas in which toxins from pollutants can set up shop, and a nest for parasites. Where they find cancer, they will find liver flukes. Anger and suppressed anger particularly always lead to illness. For some it develops into cancer, in others heart disease, in others, schizophrenia. I don't necessarily recognize that there is a gene for schizophrenia no more than I believe that there is a gene for alcoholism or cancer, but I believe all people have a propensity for certain illnesses over others. In my mother's case, her weakness was bad nerves, and chronic exposure to fear threw it over the top. She didn't choose to suppress her anger--she was beaten if she elected to exhibit any, and lived with the fear of death for herself and her children. She just didn't know any better. Root causes of her suppressed anger had very very little to do with nutrition. A continuously abused rape victim cannot be cured by foods and cleansing. You are a dreamer to think otherwise. You have altogether failed to address my example of repeated childhood rape needing to be addressed at the psychological level. You have no reply to my countless other examples, other than "detoxification and nutrition"? You seem to me to be very afraid to look at mental health issues, as much as you are afraid to look inside by meditation. Incest and rape are usually passed down by power-over and subsequent acting out, not because of sexual cravings due to DDT because rape and incest are not about sexual craving but about power-over. Aggression is a problem that is thousands of years old, not just a recent epidemic. The soil wasn't always as poor as 10% of that of organic/biological earth, and recent increased violence has more to do with social, especially educational/economic/environmental issues. Television condoning violence, sexual promiscuity and aggression, callousness, and immediate gratification (for foods, computers, market stocks), take a close second place. Tell me, since you are reluctant to reveal the source(s) of all this knowledge, do you apart from your military experiences, have any direct experience with domestic violence? Have you ever gotten to know any survivors? Oh, I just remembered, you claim to have "known" some cynical pot smokers. Have you gotten to know thousands of "addicts"? You are really not so inclined because you think you are controlling truth by your teeny field of referencing. Nutrition and detoxification are hardly new to me around the issues of schizophrenia. I know there is a direct connection to causes for many people, but that does not mean that you can close the door there because this type of therapy does fail to work for hundreds of thousands who try. Much like the 7% success rate stats for cancer therapies. So, what are those sources for your answers that you consider holistic, somehow bypassing the holistic edict of having to understand and balance "Mind, Body, Spirit"; what are your direct experiences with addiction and domestic violence? Don't be evasive on this, nor on my question to you about how better diet and cleansing is supposed to help the rape victims and years of violence programming. If you cannot respond appropriately to each question, then I must conclude that you are not yet ready to learn for reasons of denial and/or utter insensitivity to the issues of violence. The latter is another type of prejudice, again based in ignorance. Feel free to take it off list if you feel more comfortable. Once again we have rather strayed from the future of work, though I think that root causes of good/poor economic outlooks should be addressed. Natalia ----- Original Message ----- From: Christoph Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] Possible U.S. cutbacks? Tell me, since you are reluctant to reveal the source(s) of this knowledge, do you apart from your military experiences, have any direct experience with domestic violence? Have you ever gotten to know any survivors? Have you gotten to know thousands? > Natalia, > > Your thinking is not wholistic enough, but then you accuse ME > of being narrow-minded and of limited knowledge. You suggest > that psychological trauma is caused by domestic violence so it > can't be cured with dietary changes (and you conveniently cut out > the other main aspect of my approach, detoxification), but have you > ever considered the causes of domestic violence ? These have a lot > to do with nutrition and intoxications. If society would implement > the systemic changes in nutrition and toxic exposures I suggested, > then violence would decline strongly. Have you ever wondered why > the country of junk food happens to be the most violent country, > along with developing countries where nutrient deficiencies are > due to hunger (or soil depletion) instead of McD malnutrition. > > And no, this knowledge is not just "gleaned out of a seminar or two > on health" or the "latest healing trends", and I most certainly don't > "perform colonics or sell health products". Your allegations are > indeed "so far out of line it isn't funny." > > First you criticize that "the doctors and shrinks aren't doing it for > these people" (of course not, as long as they're in bed with big pharma!) > but then you uncritically parrot the pharma PR of "a gene for propensity > towards schizophrenia". Obviously you have no idea of the strong causal > influence of neurotoxins and malnutrition on schizophrenia, also carried > on over generations so it looks like "a gene" what's actually inherited > defects due to the mothers' neurotoxins and malnutrition. > > Statements like "Diet only addresses physical problems." clearly show > your profound ignorance about these matters. As long as you call the > effects "root causes", there is no hope for real healing. Your latest > posting confirms that tinkering with symptoms is all you can offer, > no matter how your newspeak re-defines words. > > Chris > > > > Get your head out of the sand. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword > "igve". > > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
