> Re: > > 1.6% last year, but the point is that if we'd send foreigners home, the > > population would be 25% less and population "growth" would be negative > > from then on. > Why is that bad? > > If one has a shrinking natural pie (topsoil, fisheries, forests, > aquifers, clean rivers and lakes, etc., wouldn't it be rational to > reduce the number of slices required to be cut from that pie?
Of course this would be rational, but let this be done by the nations whose OWN population growth is positive. And let this be done by reducing reproduction rates and per-capita footprints to a sustainable level (note that both is enabled by development and stability), NOT by mass murder. > If you think the species is not in overshoot (incl Switzerland's > ecological footprint), I suggest you are the one living in a mental > stone age. This is a strawman argument. Of course I agree that the current nominal growth in population and eco-footprints is not sustainable, but I reject the fatalism of accepting and preparing for mass murder and using cave-man ideologies as a justification, as well as wrong accusations (asserting population growth in developed countries when it's actually immigration). For the record, Switzerland's eco-footprint is much smaller than the US', so there's no need to point fingers on this. For example, we are world champions in train mileage (2,103 km/capita/year, ahead of Japan's 1,976km) and the trains all run on renewable energy here. Unfortunately, immigrants prefer the gas guzzler (after all, they came here to enjoy "wealth"!). My neighbor is a guest worker from Portugal and works as a town cleaner, but he drives a Hummer. So he can't afford train tickets! (also when commuting to Portugal) I never had a car, for enviro reasons, like many Swiss in towns (due to good public transport). Still complaining about the overshooting Swiss eco-footprint...? > Think about this: > > How many strangers do you invite to join you living in your home? Why > should a village, canton, or nation think differently? On this we agree. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
