Mike wrote:
> Are you saying that this is a conscious conspiracy on the part of the
> billionaires/predators... It's hard to reconcile that with the Gates/Buffet
> zillions currently going into anti-Malaria/sustainable agriculture...

Their "anti-Malaria" program is basically a sales pitch for pesticides
and drugs.  Even the Gates foundation website admits that the mosquitos
are getting resistant to these chemicals.  What remains is the profits
of Big Pharma (of which the billionaires own stocks) and the toxins in
the homes and bodies of Africans.

Sustainable agriculture??  Things like genetic tinkering crops which are
designed to destroy subsistence farming and force indebted farmers to
sell their kidney...

You see, taking a closer look, this "philanthropy" is as real as M$
advertising claims.  Gates only wants the best for users, ya know!!


> If you say that it is part of the underlying logic of which they are a
> primary beneficiary, I think its an easier argument to make and accept.

The feedback loop is not to be disregarded.


> Whether ZPG is necessary--well, maybe not in Switzerland
> where systems run like clockwork and the people are very accommodating and
> responsive to those systems, but having just spent time in Dhaka/Bangladesh
> where many systems hardly work at all and predator logic is rampant doing
> what needs to be done to achieve population stability is an absolute
> necessity if any kind of virtuous circles/systems are going to be allowed to
> emerge.

I think Steve bets on doom also in the developed world, incl. Switzerland
and America, even in countries with (native) repro rates as low as 1.0-1.5.
Hence his preparations for defending his son's orchard with the rifle ablaze
against the hungry masses...  After all, we're all cave men, so doom is just
around the corner!  "Cave homo!" in Latin, so to speak. ;-}

Chris




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