MessageReminds me of Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate" (2002) in which he 
argues that, as part of our genetic inheritance, we are programmed to learn 
language (whichever language is spoken) and many of the other attributes of 
being human.  Before Pinker and others argued this, the newborn's mind was 
thought to be devoid of anything social or cultural.  The ability to learn 
language, music, etc. had to be programmed into it by teachers and caregivers.

Something else I read recently (I forget where), suggests that babies are 
programmed from the earliest stages of gestation and have already learned a lot 
in the womb by the time they are born.

Ed

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Harrell 
  To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Here's to mental health at 90!


  That is what we do Natalia.     I have a close friend who studied with the 
Salish people and who helps me with these things.    It's not hard for a 
Traditional Indian to image these things and it's also not hard for a musician 
who knows that reality is created in the mind and disappears when you finish 
with it unlike the people tied to the tyranny of touch and see and what they 
choose to call the "Material" world.    For me it is a matter of the English 
language which is locked in Subjects and Direct Objects and hard nouns and has 
a problem with describing process or the flow of reality. 

   

  This is from the new Thaut book that I told you about: 

   

  With the advent of modern cognitive neuroscience and its new tools of 
studying the human brain, "live," music as a highly complex, temporally ordered 
and rule-based sensory language quickly became a fascinating topic of study, 
probably driven by the quiet hope that these new tools and paradigms would 
bring us closer to an understanding of the function and role of music and its 
mechanisms to attract our minds.  In parallel to these aspirations, however, 
another highly significant development in studying music scientifically 
occurred, which was possibly less foreseen by many researchers.    We now know 
that by studying the physiology and neurology of brain function in music we can 
actually obtain a great deal of knowledge about general brain function, in 
regard to the perception of complex auditory sound stimuli, time and rhythm 
processing, differential processing of music and language as two aural 
communication systems, biological substrates of learning versus innate talent 
in the arts, and pro­cessing of higher cognitive functions related to 
temporality and emotion. Music has become a very useful model for brain 
research in perception and cognition.

   

  It has become quite clear in recent years that one of the most interesting 
and provocative suggestions coming out of these efforts in music and brain 
science is the realization of music as a biologically deeply ingrained function 
of the human brain. The brain has neural circuitry that is dedicated to music. 
Music is associated with a specific yet complex brain architecture. Sensitivity 
to music plays a critical role in the development of all children regardless of 
the presence or absence of later artistic achievement.  Music is ubiquitous in 
all known historical and present cultures. It is safe to say that music is much 
more than cultural artifact, an icing on the cake of human evolution after 
basic biological needs and developments were adaptively satisfied. This will be 
discussed further in this book in relation ship to a new paradigm of a 
neuroscience of aesthetics.

   

  Rhythm, Music and the Brain:   Scientific Foundations and Clinical 
Applications,  Michael H. Thaut.  Routledge pg. viii.  

   

  Best, 

   

  REH.

   

  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darryl or Natalia
  Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:03 PM
  To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Here's to mental health at 90!

   

  That lovely lady's body would be suffering all the more if not for her wise 
active mind. She's fortunate to have put it to good use to eventually ease the 
transition to the next life.

  Do you ever wonder how much easier this transition from active mind to 
frailty to physical death would be if people could learn to accept altered 
states as a natural function of their time on Earth? If they had a shaman, 
spiritual or psychotherapist guide them through these changes, is it possible 
they could unravel some buried stuff and sojourn into new realms with dignity 
in tact rather than be branded with senility?

  As I glance at a list of Salish spirit quest altered states of consciousness 
symptoms, described by Ludwig in the context of trance and possession, 1968, I 
start to wonder:

  1) alterations in thinking; including predominance of archaic modes of 
thought, blurring of cause effect distinction, cognitive ambivalence

  2) disturbed time sense

  3) loss of conscious control and inhibition which may be relinquished in 
order to gain a greater, culturally defined power

  4) change in emotional expression towards affective extremes ranging from 
ecstasy to profound fear

  5) body image changes; feelings of depersonalization, derealization, 
dissolution of boundaries between self and environment, often associated with 
dizziness, weakness, blurred vision and analgesia

  6) perceptual distortions,; hallucinations, illusions, visual imagery, 
hyper-acuteness of perceptions, synaesthetic experiences

  7) change in meaning; attachment of increased or specific significance to 
subjective experience or external cues, leading to thrilling feelings of 
insight, and revelation of "truth" which then carries an unshakable conviction

  8) sense of ineffable; the essence of the personal experience is felt not to 
be directly communicable; and this is often explained by varying degrees of 
amnesia

  9) feelings of rejuvenation; of renewed hope or of rebirth

  10) hyper-suggestibility: a propensity to accept, or to respond uncritically 
to statements of an authority figure via identification, or to cultural and 
group expectations.

  Imagine walking someone through the first parts to have them weave through 
the latter--without the feelings of grief and loss over ego self. Picture them 
being with someone who knew what to watch for, and who could interpret what was 
seen or felt, without being overbearing or subjective. Western culture would 
call these altered states psychogenic, most often observed in hypnosis, 
religious revelation or hysterical dissociation. Christians call it something 
else (like demonic possession), and yet differences are about cultural rather 
than psychological or neurophysiological states. But the term 'trance' 
designates a state of double consciousness, between limiting state of awareness 
of personal self and dream-like state of the para-personal self. The 
"neuropsychological basis of the trance or possession state is the dissociation 
of the self, which loses its experiential unity and is converted into a 
secondary dual system of relational experience." This "capacity to attain 
altered states of consciousness are a universal property of the human central 
nervous system, but their prevalence is the function of socio-cultural 
variables" says Wolfgang G. Jilek, M.D., author of Indian Healing, Shamanic 
Ceremonialism in the Pacific Northwest Today. There may be a reason, a personal 
motivation for induction of these states by seniors, and we're 
dismissing/misdiagnosing their landmark passage as signs of demise.

  I've long suspected that a lot of what's going on with cognitive impairment 
has to do with mind taking a trek/break from chiefly psychological pain and 
restraints. I suspect that at the first signs of it, people ignore the warnings 
to search for peace within. Seniors generally will become frightened and seek 
out allopathic remedies, which may or may not be the answer. In my 
observations, this usually marks the beginning of the end because the drugs are 
so harmful, and require other drugs to alleviate the adverse effects. Then, 
it's diarrhea city. Every elderly patient I've observed, be it with Alzheimer's 
or depression, post-stroke or what have you, has been bombarded with mind 
numbing anti-depressants or systems depressants that typically lead to hip 
fractures/falls that wouldn't likely have happened had the patient stayed home, 
got meals delivered, and were allowed time to work it out themselves or with 
some nursing or counseling. Sure, you have those who might set the house on 
fire, but I'll bet they are more in the numbers of those who are iatrogenic 
victims than not. 

  I've wondered how much rigidity and such things as giving away one's personal 
power over time have to do with later brain impairment or demise. Usually 
permanent physical condition arises out of a predisposition for it, yet it's 
always different with each patient. But if that person had been able to know 
themselves, others and their world better in a more connected or fulfilling 
light, would it have been easier for them? There's often a pattern of a major 
resentment or trauma that should have been addressed. Blockages that can cause 
very real symptoms that can all too easily easily be assigned a clinical name. 
And once they hand over their own well being to the care of others and 
pharmaceuticals, they may never learn that looking at life differently will 
yield different results. They've never been taught the tools, or the resources 
in naturopathic remedies, and though spirituality might take them there, their 
steady diet of religion or resentment thereof fails to direct them. I believe 
religions should be taught in school. All religions and spiritual beliefs, so 
that people would know choice. Biggest thing going, along with science and 
technology, and kids are forced to learn dogma from within limiting parental 
purlieus, or worse still, from a religious school they may be attending. 
Atheism should also be taught, not just left fore kids to adopt without knowing 
the theory.

  We all have to dream and experience freedom for our mind's well-being. In 
material life, immediate gratification without consequences would obviously 
lead to miscreant actions. Aside from all of the physiological documented 
evidence one could present, I suspect night dreams are the mind's coping 
strategy for daytime maintenance of high energy, low frequency physicality. If 
we didn't have the escape from the physical on a (preferably) nocturnal basis, 
our minds would go nuts from chronic imagined imprisonment--not so much 
physical but psychical. In aging, our dream recall tends to diminish, resulting 
in less conscious processing of subconscious experience. People with vivid 
recall don't seem to experience this lessening, but they may become victims of 
their own fear-based interpretations as the line between conscious and 
subconscious crosses or merges. Most psychologists could help these people to 
some extent, but getting the help they need in time never happens.

  Just thoughts. Not professional. What do you think?

  Natalia



  Ray Harrell wrote: 

   

  "I have to go visit a 90 year old Jewish lady whose brain is not downsized.   
It's just her body.    What a waste."

   

   

  Hey Natalia,   I was sad before I went.   She is bright and worked full time 
up until she was 88.   She raised a daughter on her own.    The daughter became 
so self reliant that in her late teens she hiked all over Europe and a lot of 
Asia, was a member of the Bread and Puppet Theater and worked through college 
to a PHD in Social Work.     She rescued a couple of Indian children from the 
wars in Central America and raised them as a single mother.    Because they are 
Indian she brought them to our community and participated with them in our 
ceremonials and rituals.     Meanwhile she is known as an angel to the police 
because she would step right in front of a policeman's gun to protect a child 
in a drug dealers apartment.     She is now retired but has gone back to school 
and is continuing to do her profession privately.    

   

  What an amazing little woman with an amazing mother who smiled a huge smile 
and spoke beautifully with a mind that speaks for someone much younger than her 
90+ years.      So much knowledge in so frail a body.

   

  It was a gift to me today.    

  Thank you Miriam,   

  Wado Edoda.

   

  REH

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  From: [email protected] 
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  Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:50 PM
  To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
  Subject: [Futurework] FW: [p2p-research] newsweek on The Creativity Crisis

   

   

  -----Original Message-----
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  Subject: [p2p-research] newsweek on The Creativity Crisis

   


  http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/10/the-creativity-crisis.html

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