Well thought out reply.  However, would the lower class men locked in the
lower sections of the Titanic have given their lives more readily for their
women than the upper class men who crowded the boats?     In this case, one
of the people who protected his girl friend was military and died.    The
other young man with his girl friend, both of whom were studded and ear
plugged with body piercings, didn't look like he would have been cowardly.
It also stated that her brother, who survived, had  thrown himself over his
girl friend and got her out of the theater.     Those people are generally
pretty fearless and passionate in a way that makes protecting their girl
friends likely I would say.     

 

I agree with Keith about learning from the shooter but we can also learn why
the upper class would be more likely to take a woman's place in the lifeboat
while the lower class would consider such a thing unacceptable.   At least
that's my experience.       My military experience was an interesting
situation considering such things.    I would say that it was a matter of
"bonding" that made defense of the helpless an ordinary living strategy.
The military works very hard to inculcate the idea of fighting and
protecting as the ordinary work of soldiers.   The term "extraordinary
actions"  become ordinary in the life and work of a soldier.    That would
make me believe what I read.    REH

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:56 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; Arthur Cordell
Subject: Re: [Futurework] 'Dark Knight Rises' shooting: Three heroes died in
Aurora taking bullets for their girlfriends - NY Daily News

 

Arthur,

My comment is that I strongly doubt the literal accuracy of this news
account. Men are more inclined to be heroic in emergencies because males,
intrinsically, are more risk-taking than females. For example, in the
Zeebrugge ferry disaster in 1987 (in which 193 passengers and crew died), I
remember reading at the time that one young man, in dangerous circumstances,
helped many passengers to escape from being trapped below. But the total
weight of evidence from many ship disasters over the years says that men
take to the lifeboats disproportionately to women and children. There were
examples of this, I believe, during the Ttitanic sinking.

All stories of tragedies tend to get enhanced from the word go. I can well
imagine three young men throwing their arms around their girl friends and
then trying to flee together or take cover. But if three of the six were to
die then it's only 8:1 against three men rather than girls being hit.

Incidentally, I'm glad that the police didn't kill Holmes at Aurora. As with
Breivik's massacres a year ago in Norway, and his arrest, we need to know a
great deal more about the early life stories of these men (usually social
isolates) to identify other potential misfits at as young an age as possible
in order to hopefully deflect their development.

Keith

At 04:26 23/07/2012, you wrote:



Way off topic but sort of intriguing.

Arthur


To: '[email protected]'
Subject: FW: 'Dark Knight Rises' shooting: Three heroes died in Aurora
taking bullets for their girlfriends - NY Daily News

Interesting.  The response of the male seems to be to protect.  Instinctive?
Who knows.  Maybe Keith has an answer or would care to comment.

Arthur
'Dark Knight Rises' shooting: Three heroes died in Aurora taking bullets for
their girlfriends In final acts of valor, Jon Blunk, Matt McQuinn and Alex
Teves used their bodies to shield their girlfriends as accused madman James
Holmes turned the Aurora cineplex into a shooting gallery.

Read more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/aurora-shooting-died-bullets-sweeti

es-article-1.1119395#ixzz21Oy21I65

http://tinyurl.com/c9sj52m
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/aurora-shooting-died-bullets-sweeti

es-article-1.1119395
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