Perhaps the very life of a wealthy person (being brought up to believe
they are "better than" - and "more deserving of life than") anyone else
(including those of other wealthy families - whether male or female)
creates a sense of "self preservation" which would not appear to
themselves as acts of cowardice. Whereas the poorer of societies have
been conditioned to "serve" and "sacrifice" (be thrust onto the front
lines of any battle the insane greed of wealth considers important for
their continuation of that wealth and power.
D.
On 23/07/2012 12:03 AM, Ray Harrell wrote:
Well thought out reply. However, would the lower class men locked in
the lower sections of the Titanic have given their lives more readily
for their women than the upper class men who crowded the boats? In
this case, one of the people who protected his girl friend was
military and died. The other young man with his girl friend, both
of whom were studded and ear plugged with body piercings, didn't look
like he would have been cowardly. It also stated that her brother,
who survived, had thrown himself over his girl friend and got her out
of the theater. Those people are generally pretty fearless and
passionate in a way that makes protecting their girl friends likely I
would say.
I agree with Keith about learning from the shooter but we can also
learn why the upper class would be more likely to take a woman's place
in the lifeboat while the lower class would consider such a thing
unacceptable. At least that's my experience. My military
experience was an interesting situation considering such things. I
would say that it was a matter of "bonding" that made defense of the
helpless an ordinary living strategy. The military works very
hard to inculcate the idea of fighting and protecting as the ordinary
work of soldiers. The term "extraordinary actions" become ordinary
in the life and work of a soldier. That would make me believe what
I read. REH
*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Keith Hudson
*Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 12:56 AM
*To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; Arthur Cordell
*Subject:* Re: [Futurework] 'Dark Knight Rises' shooting: Three heroes
died in Aurora taking bullets for their girlfriends - NY Daily News
Arthur,
My comment is that I strongly doubt the literal accuracy of this news
account. Men are more inclined to be heroic in emergencies because
males, intrinsically, are more risk-taking than females. For example,
in the Zeebrugge ferry disaster in 1987 (in which 193 passengers and
crew died), I remember reading at the time that one young man, in
dangerous circumstances, helped many passengers to escape from being
trapped below. But the total weight of evidence from many ship
disasters over the years says that men take to the lifeboats
disproportionately to women and children. There were examples of this,
I believe, during the Ttitanic sinking.
All stories of tragedies tend to get enhanced from the word go. I can
well imagine three young men throwing their arms around their girl
friends and then trying to flee together or take cover. But if three
of the six were to die then it's only 8:1 against three men rather
than girls being hit.
Incidentally, I'm glad that the police didn't kill Holmes at Aurora.
As with Breivik's massacres a year ago in Norway, and his arrest, we
need to know a great deal more about the early life stories of these
men (usually social isolates) to identify other potential misfits at
as young an age as possible in order to hopefully deflect their
development.
Keith
At 04:26 23/07/2012, you wrote:
Way off topic but sort of intriguing.
Arthur
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: FW: 'Dark Knight Rises' shooting: Three heroes died in Aurora
taking bullets for their girlfriends - NY Daily News
Interesting. The response of the male seems to be to protect.
Instinctive?
Who knows. Maybe Keith has an answer or would care to comment.
Arthur
'Dark Knight Rises' shooting: Three heroes died in Aurora taking
bullets for
their girlfriends In final acts of valor, Jon Blunk, Matt McQuinn and Alex
Teves used their bodies to shield their girlfriends as accused madman
James
Holmes turned the Aurora cineplex into a shooting gallery.
Read more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/aurora-shooting-died-bullets-sweeti
es-article-1.1119395#ixzz21Oy21I65
http://tinyurl.com/c9sj52m
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/aurora-shooting-died-bullets-sweeti
es-article-1.1119395
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Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com
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