Too true. But no revolution has ever occurred until the 99% reach a
critical mass of oppression and starvation and some other usurer
considers he can whip up the favours of the starving to overthrow those
in charge. Sheeple are forever sheeple and must be guided by the
shepherd; whoever and whatever that shepherd may be.
Ed, I would surmise that only your toe has sampled the waters of "the
dark side"; If even that much.
Darryl
On 29/07/2012 11:13 AM, Ed Weick wrote:
Not quite sure of what I mean. The idea of a revolution is to
transcend the miserable state a people are in and to create a much
better and more egalitarian world. But does it really ever happen?
The Enlightenment led to the French Revolution, huge head choppings,
and the Napoleonic Wars. The Russian revolution resulted in the
hugely repressive Stalinist state. The American Revolution has
resulted in the 99% vs. the 1%. The ideals of Chairman Mao have led
to repressive state capitalism. What I'm trying to say is what John
Gray said far better than I could in his "Black Mass" -- revolutionary
ideals never turn out the way they were supposed to, and do be careful
what you wish for.
What, for example, should the 99% vs. the 1% result in? Even if major
reforms were instituted, it would probably not go much further than
98% vs. 2%. A happy 100% egalitarian world is a complete fantasy.
The reason I used a quote from the 1970's and one from this year is to
demonstrate that things haven't really changed very much. It was
hippies then, occupiers now.
Yours from the dark side,
Ed
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A couple of quotes:
THE REVOLUTION of the twentieth century will take place in the
United States. It is only there that it can happen. And it has
already begun. 'Whether or not that revolution spreads to the rest
of the world depends on whether or not it succeeds first in America.
I am not unaware of the shock and incredulity such statements may
cause at every level of the European Left and among the nations of
the Third World. I know it is difficult to believe that
America---the fatherland of imperialism, the power responsible for
the war in Vietnam, the nation of Joe McCarthy's witch hunts, the
exploiter of the world's natural resources---is, or could become,
the cradle of revolution. /(Jean Francois Revel, _Without Marx or
Jesus, the new American revolution has begun_, 1970)/
The Occupy movements are the physical embodiment of hope. They
returned us to a world where empathy is a primary attribute. They
defied the profit-driven hierarchical structures of corporate
capitalism. They know hope has a cost, that it is not easy or
comfortable, that it requires self-sacrifice and discomfort and
finally faith. In Zuccotti Park and throughout the they slept on
concrete every night. Their clothes were soiled. They ate
more bagels and peanut butter than they ever thought possible.
They tasted fear, were beaten, went to jail, were blinded by
pepper spray, cried, hugged each laughed, sung, talked too long in
general assemblies, saw their chants drift upward to the office
towers above them, wondered if it is worth it, if anyone cared if
they would win. /(Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco, _Days of
Destruction, Days of Revolt_, 2012)/
A question:
Hope does seem to spring eternal in the revolutionary breast, but
will anything ever really happen?
Ed
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