Are you misinterpreting here? Or am I not being specific enough? "They swear that amateurs are better because they love it." Here, I assume you are calling /alternative health practitioners/ amateurs. If the only /professional/ health practitioner to you is one that has gone to "medical school" then .... what? Really. What has payment to do with anything? It used to be that one paid with whatever one could, be it coin, rutabagas, chickens, work in kind or prayers of thanks. Does it not all come down to the "system of coin" damaging the interactions of individuals, communities and societies?

My point below is that "the placebo usually does as much healing as the pharmaceutical mendicant and sometimes more". The /intention/ to heal, consciously taken generally has more positive effect than slapping a prescription in someone's hand; or if the herbalist convinces the patient that their concoction will help, it does; or if the priest convinces the parishioner that prayer will help, it does. Meaning that if the mind holding the illness can be convinced that something - no matter what - will help, it does. Change the mind. Change the "being". You can /be/ ill or you can /be/ healthy. /Belief/ appears more and more in studies to be the key. It is that /belief/ that puts us in "connection"; that joins us - to each other and to the energy that has Created.

D.

On 10/08/2012 10:37 AM, Ray Harrell wrote:

D.

I didn't say that the Shamans believe that they are better because of love, although love is the doorway to the connection, I said that the people who go to them with the same expectation as allopathic medicine ascribe a benefit to a lack of payment that is healing. They get something for nothing because the healer is healing out of love and not for money. It's a bastardization of the two systems and constitutes ignorance that makes balance impossible. Like the guys who charge for the big sweatlodges as if it were western science and the people who try to get cured for nothing. Who'se going to pay the requirement for the balance? Shamanic medicine is often holistically more expensive than Allopathic payments.

REH

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Not just love it. Their minds are directed toward healing the /cause/ not analyzing the /symptoms/ for continued treatment. And now, from research, we know that the /mind/ has a far greater influence on the outcome of health than most external phenomena. So, caring, empathizing with someone may be just as viable a treatment as anything that has a /concrete/, physical mode because it changes the /mind/ of the patient to one of a more positive outlook .

D.

On 09/08/2012 4:34 PM, Ray Harrell wrote:

Yes I know people who go to Shamans rather than the hospital. They swear that amateurs are better because they love it.

    REH

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    *Keith Hudson
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    *Subject:* [Futurework] The future of great music

    In these days of the decline of professional orchestras and, more
    than likely, a long term economic depression in front of us, it's
    as well to remind ourselves that classical (that is, fully
    developed) music can still survive in good heart. A long term
    friend (and customer) of mine, the president of San Francisco
    Lyric Chorus, spent two years organizing a concert in which,
    Saturday last, one of the greatest choral works of all time was
    performed -- Berlioz's Requiem.  It involved over 100 amateur
    orchestral players in San Francisco and a larger choir selected
    from over 30 others in the Bay area and further afield, including
    40 singers from New York. The programme filled San Francisco's
    Davies Symphony Hall and the performance was described by the San
    Francisco Chronicle as the "Mega-Concert of the Year. Or Years."

    For those interested, a 1.5-minute snitch of the volunteer
    orchestra rehearsing Strauss' Sunrise from Also Sprach Zarathustra
    (performed in the first half of the concert) may be seen and heard
    here: http://youtu.be/fS0RsMMvMqY

    Keith





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