,At 19:44 19/11/2012, Ed wrote:
The period from aprx. 1950 to 1975 was indeed a
golden age. Easy to get jobs and
promotions. Not too difficult to buy a nice
house and even put a full-sized pool in the
backyard so that you and the kids could have a swim.
(KH) In retrospect, this was an unreal situation.
Towards the latter end of that period
I worked for a multi-national and wages and
salaries there were leaping upwards -- seemingly
two or three times a year! This was also the
period when the credit card was being introduced
and the financial sector started taking final
leave of its senses (with governments turning a
blind eye) with increasingly lavish credit.
(EW) Not at all like that now. People in the
public service anxiously wondering if they'll
keep their jobs. I know a couple of people on whom the axe has already fallen.
(KH) Well, that evens things up a bit. Over here
in the UK, public service employees earned 20%
more than people in equivalent jobs in private
jobs for many years. Furthermore, the former not
only had more generous pensions but they were
index linked. As advanced governments proceed
from 'technical bankruptcy' (as they are already)
to real bankruptcy then the respective plights of
their employees and pensioners will be similar in
the years to come. I wouldn't be surprised if much the
same has applied, and will apply, in Canada and
America. Ed, just consider yourself lucky to have
worked when and where you did!
Keith
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You Can't Go Home Again the novel by Thomas Wolfe
The time that Krugman describes is a time when a
breadwinner in the family could support mate and
many kids, still afford a new car from time to
time and could afford to buy a new (tract)
house. I am describing my late father in
law. Was a middle income worker at National
Defence yet managed to live reasonably well on one salary. Try that today.
arthur
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Krugman on then and now:
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/opinion/krugman-the-twinkie-manifesto.html?ref=opinion&_r=0>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/opinion/krugman-the-twinkie-manifesto.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
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