Harry, Sorry to misread you.
Bill On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:29:05 -0700 Harry Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bill, > > Don't take on so. I was referring not to the guerrillas but to the > way they > operate. They can hit anywhere at any time. Difficult to defend > against, > unless you make the entire country an armed camp. > > Even so-called airport security has become an annoying joke. > > Harry > _______________________________ > > William wrote: > > >What does everyone have against guerillas? I just don't like > terrorists > >but certainly support the people of Chiapas. Bush has successfully > >clouded the issue by defining guerillas as terrorists and anyone > who is > >the enemy of Citicorp [aka the IMF] is a terrorist by his > definition. > > > >Bill Ward > > > >On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:45:29 -0700 Harry Pollard > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Keith (and Karen), > > > > > > Some points to chew over. > > > > > > 1. We cannot protect ourselves from guerilla attack without so > > > constricting > > > our freedoms that the guerrillas will have won anyway. > > > > > > 2. Bush (and congress) cannot keep spending money the way they > are > > > without > > > seriously damaging (the somewhat unfounded) confidence in the > dollar > > > as a > > > stable reserve currency. > > > > > > 3. Things that happen in the stock market have little or no > effect > > > on the > > > economy. > > > > > > I am reminded of the story of the young economist in the > thirties > > > who, > > > after graduating, took the bus home to his father who ran a > > > successful > > > hamburger restaurant - Ed's Hamburgers. > > > > > > Some 300 miles away from his father, the young man saw a > roadside > > > billboard > > > "Ed's Hamburgers - the best in the West". > > > > > > About 250 miles to go and there were several billboards filled > with > > > lavish > > > praise for Ed's Hamburgers. This continued all the way home, > where > > > the > > > billboards sprouted everywhere. > > > > > > The young man had a hard job getting into the restaurant. There > was > > > a line > > > waiting to get in who didn't take kindly to the pushy young man > > > getting > > > ahead in the line. > > > > > > Next morning at breakfast, the son explained economics to his > > > father. "The > > > cost of all those signs will bankrupt you dad. You should cut > > > expenses and > > > take them down. Don't you know there's a depression?" > > > > > > So, the father took down all the expensive billboards and the > young > > > economist was right. There was a depression, and father went > broke. > > > > > > It's an old story and makes the point. > > > > > > If producers believe the experts, who know little, or the > pundits > > > who know > > > less, or the politicians who know nothing, and begin to cut back > > > production > > > - there could be a problem. > > > > > > For almost 50 years, I have been teaching that stock market > antics > > > don't > > > cause depression. In 1987, stock prices fell by almost one third > > > ("the > > > worst since the Great Depression") so what happened to the > economy? > > > > > > Nothing. > > > > > > When the economy is crumbling around the edges and people > realize > > > they own > > > a factory where half the machines are idle and lay-offs have > > > decimated the > > > work force, they will want to sell. Trouble is that when lots of > > > people > > > have factories in similar condition and they all want to sell, > > > prices begin > > > to drop - perhaps precipitously. > > > > > > The economic collapse precedes the stock market collapse. > > > > > > Sorry to bring it back, Keith, but we are in the middle of a > > > "collectible" > > > psychology. The reason you have, and hang on to an empty Rosalie > > > beer can > > > (present price $10,300) is because you think it might increase. > > > There is no > > > income attached to the beer can, but you don't care. The price > is > > > everything. > > > > > > This led to my comment about price/earnings ratios which have > > > reached > > > extraordinary levels. I referred to the analysts' bleating about > > > this. > > > "Investors" didn't seem to care about earnings as they bid > prices > > > higher. > > > > > > This is on all fours with the owners of the beer cans (there > appear > > > to be 3 > > > Rosalies in mint condition. Now say someone found in his attic a > > > crate of > > > mint condition Rosalies and took them down to the local > collectible > > > store > > > where he sold them for $5 a can. > > > > > > What would you do as a collector? The magic that provided you > with a > > > > > > $10,300 can has disappeared with a pop. You have a $5 beer can. > > > > > > Let me repeat how I first came across a Rosalie beer can. One > was > > > sold at > > > auction for $4,000. Before the lucky bidder left the room, he > was > > > offered > > > $10,000. He refused. That was more than 20 years ago. Over these > > > decades > > > the beer can has only just risen to $10,300. > > > > > > He should have made the deal, but he didn't. If you think about > why > > > he > > > didn't take it, also why the $10,000 was offered, you'll get a > grasp > > > of the > > > collectible market. > > > > > > It's a market without the price mechanism control that makes the > > > free > > > market so effective. > > > > > > I talked about this with regard to the land market, which is a > > > collectible > > > market. Wow, look at those housing prices soar! It seems > impossible > > > for the > > > modern neo-classical economist to divide the two components of > > > housing - > > > the building and the land. > > > > > > The house price drops every year as with all products that get > > > older. The > > > land price rises every year because it's a collectible. It also > > > suffers the > > > possibility of an "inexplicable" crash - as with the stock > market > > > and the > > > Rosalie beer can. > > > > > > Even the London Economist seems filled with people unacquainted > with > > > real > > > life. A recent issue cover story pointed out that "real estate" > all > > > over > > > the world is holding up the world's economies. > > > > > > Our economic well-being rests sturdily on a beer can! > > > > > > Harry > > > ****************************** > Harry Pollard > Henry George School of LA > Box 655 > Tujunga CA 91042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (818) 352-4141 > Fax: (818) 353-2242 > ******************************* > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.