Harry,
I think you have discovered the essence of the difference between
capitalists and progressives:
I got it from the experience of
"time out of time" on New York <-> Tokyo nonstop 12-14hr
flights, which I always wished would never end, but
which at least lasted long enough to give a bit of the
fantasy of being outside time....)
I have always hated those flights.
Bill
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:18:26 -0400 "Brad McCormick, Ed.D."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > No disrespect Harry. But in answer to your question,
> >
> > So, how can there be a "free market idealogue"?
> >
> > I suggest you look in the mirror.
>
> And may I further suggest that there may be a
> difference between a "free market idealogue" and a
> real lean and mean *free marketeer*?
>
> The former have leisure which they devote to
> elaborating the logic of the theory of free markets --
> instead of devoting it to elaborating the
> theory of leisure as the basis of [their own...] culture, e.g.
> The latter's [perverted] leisure is busting people's balls, and
> making killings in the stock market, etc.
>
> I suppose the same person can be both, and perhaps that's
> one of the reasons some Captains of Industry live
> in Greenwich and Westport (Connecticut): So that
> they can indulge in delicious reflections on
> the nature of free markets while their chauffeur
> drives them home at night [surely the
> darkness in the back of a limousine has a
> different quality than the darkness in
> ordinary cars]. (Now where did I get this
> weird idea? I got it from the experience of
> "time out of time" on New York <-> Tokyo nonstop 12-14hr
> flights, which I always wished would never end, but
> which at least lasted long enough to give a bit of the
> fantasy of being outside time....)
>
> I think Harry enjoys the way he uses his leisure
> theorizing about "free markets" (i.e., about
> economic conditions of persons who do not have leisure).
>
> \brad mccormick
>
> >
> > arthur
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:26 PM
> > To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Exit ramp for Europe (collateral damage
> on Tar
> > C reek)
> >
> >
> > Arthur,
> >
> > People have been exchanging with each other since the beginning of
> time.
> > They have also been taking care of the unfortunate since the
> beginning.
> >
> > These are quite natural things for humans to do
> >
> > So, how can there be a "free market idealogue"?
> >
> > It's rather like suggesting that someone who advocates deep
> breathing of
> > air is an "oxygen ideologue".
> >
> > However, there is such a thing as a "welfare state ideologue". For
> the
> > welfare state is a contrivance of people who surely can be
> described as
> > "welfare state ideologues".
> >
> > There is no merit in a welfare state. It is a gesture of defeat.
> The people
> > produce. Much of the production is stolen from them. The thieves
> are taxed
> > on their loot. The proceeds of taxation are in part given back to
> people,
> > and the welfare ideologues take credit.
> >
> > For what? While they play with the meritless welfare state, they
> have
> > forgotten why welfare is needed. And as they are ideologues, they
> will
> > never turn from doing the wrong thing in preference to the right
> thing.
> >
> > Harry
> > ----------------------------------------
> >
> > Arthur wrote:
> >
> >
> >>What I meant to say is that free market idealogues suddenly see
> merit in a
> >>welfare state: Looking down that barrel helps them to think more
> "clearly."
> >>Survival is suddenly about trade offs and the trade offs look
> reasonable.
> >>Enlightened self-interest.
> >>
> >>arthur
> >
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Harry Pollard
> > Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles
> > Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042
> > Tel: (818) 352-4141 -- Fax: (818) 353-2242
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> >
>
>
> --
> Let your light so shine before men,
> that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
>
> Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
>
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