We do need a better accounting system.

Ed Weick


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Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Exit ramp for Europe (collateral damage on Tar C
reek)


> To an economist, the following is not controversial
>
>       How can I be faulted for supplying the community with
>       $50 million worth of goods and/or services?
>
> but if it costs $20 million [MBTE for example] to clean the pollution and
> your goods/services cause $10 million in additional health care costs,
> the value is $20 million.  There certainly are cases where the damage to
> the environment is greater than the value of the products and services
> produced.
>
>
> Bill
>
> How can I be faulted for supplying the community with
> $50 million worth of goods and/or services?
>
>
> On Sat, 31 May 2003 13:13:14 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > I think that a progressive tax system is important for
> > cross-subsidization
> > which I find to be congruent with community.  Community, like family
> > is
> > based on cross subsidization.
> >
> > arthur
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:58 PM
> > To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Exit ramp for Europe (collateral damage on
> > Tar
> > C reek)
> >
> >
> > Arthur and Karen,
> >
> > I doubt you would object to my so increasing my skills and work
> > habits that
> > I make $50 million. How can I be faulted for supplying the community
> > with
> > $50 million worth of goods and/or services?
> >
> > Whether I could - or should - do something else such as lying on the
> > beach
> > is really none of your business.
> >
> > So, is it "greed" - a thoroughly subjective judgement - or something
> >
> > thoroughly commendable?
> >
> > Harry
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > Arthur wrote:
> >
> > >It's not the voices of enlightened self interest that will do it,
> > rather
> > >it is the selfish enlightened self interest that occurs when the
> > >overstuffed sloth realizes that the future may not resemble the
> > >past.  Greed can follow many paths--in this case long term greed
> > >maximization might push for a solid middle class (and leave this
> > >overstuffed sloth to choke on his riches and not be choked by a
> > >disgruntled untermensch)
> > >arthur
> > >[Cordell, Arthur: ECOM]
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Karen Watters Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:30 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Cc: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: [Futurework] Exit ramp for Europe (collateral damage on
> > Tar
> > >Creek)
> > >
> > >Arthur, who are the voices of enlightened self interest who can
> > effect
> > >something from what many fear is runaway greed and despotism?
> > Where is
> > >that line in the sand that says, Enough?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Does Bill Gates' philanthropy have to represent this class all by
> > >himself?  Who are the models for doing something today to prevent
> > >shirtless mobs in the future?  Warren Buffet wrote a biting opinion
> > piece
> > >recently opposing the Bush2 tax cut plan.  Are these the only role
> > models
> > >because they are fabulously wealthy?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Have we reached a point where the voices heard are just those at
> > the top
> > >of the money pyramid and those grumbling at the bottom?  If so,
> > then is
> > >that our only new cultural enlightenment of any voice?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I ask you this not as a challenge, but because I know you will
> > apply
> > >thoughtfulness to a reply.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >- KWC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >That is why policy should appeal to the rich on the basis of
> > "enlightened
> > >self-interest"  Redistribution today or be attacked by the
> > "shirtless"
> > >mobs tomorrow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >PS I apologize for the font size here. While I am typing this my
> > email
> > >program insists it is size 11 Arial, but it appears on my screen
> > more like
> > >7.5 and then when I see it afterwards it appears to be 12.  I have
> > not
> > >been able to correct this with simple default changes, seems to be
> >
> > >something else.
> >
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Harry Pollard
> > Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles
> > Box 655   Tujunga   CA   91042
> > Tel: (818) 352-4141  --  Fax: (818) 353-2242
> > http://home.attbi.com/~haledward
> > ****************************************************
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