No, but I think Malcolm X was probably on the right track. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:47 AM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Futurework] Please listen to me! ( was: Another injustice inthe job stakes
Arthur, You are in favor of apartheid? REH Original Message: ----------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:18:44 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Futurework] Please listen to me! ( was: Another injustice inthe job stakes I was responding more to Keith's remarks. More and more I am coming back to the notion of separate but equal as one way to deal with racial divisions. But this time it is for real. Note that I too have known discrimination and hatred. I too have been able to blend into the larger society. Cordell is an all American name. My father thought it would give us a better chance in the anti-semitic society he lived in when he changed the family name from Cohen to Cordell. arthur -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Bowd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:14 AM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Please listen to me! ( was: Another injustice in the job stakes Good Morning Arthur! Just so that I do not misunderstand, does your remark refer to Keith's response, or Ray's? As much as I respect Keith's contributions to the list, I have to thank Ray for sharing his anguished experience of subordination. I have had contact with AIM activists, and Black activists in the 70s, along the way, and nothing in Ray's remarks is in conflict with their shared experiences. I would only comment to Keith that emotion, too, is also a way of knowing the world. I could comment further, but I choose not to. Bob Bowd ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Please listen to me! ( was: Another injustice in the job stakes > Tough stuff, but hard to disagree with. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:21 AM > To: Ray Evans Harrell > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Futurework] Please listen to me! ( was: Another injustice in > the job stakes > > > Ray, > > At 22:57 25/06/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >God, this just gets worse. I don't have time to read this shit. Harry > >were you here in 1954? Keith did you ever experience Apartheid or > >Segregation? > > Oh dear, you do get carried away don't you? I could take offence at some > of the immoderate language you so frequently hurl at Harry and me. Why > don't you keep to facts instead of being carried away by your emotions? I > confine most of my emotions to my nearest and dearest and working > colleagues because I haven't a great deal more to spread around. (And nor > has any other normal person either.) If more West Indian- and African-born > UK male citizens in England also confined their emotions to their nearest > and dearest, and looked after their wives/girl friends and children instead > of abandoning them to the state as soon as possible, then so many of them > wouldn't be occupying our prisons and more people could walk the streets in > our cities without being mugged. They came here in order to share our > prosperity but, *generally*, they can't cope with our particular type of > culture and the skills that are required for middle-class-type professions. > (But, just to make sure you understand me correctly, there are plenty of > white trash, too -- yes, even in our welfare state with equality of state > schooling for all -- "high quality" too, according to our Labour government > -- who also abandon their wives and children and mug old people in the > streets.) > > Please listen to me. I believe in complete equality of legal rights and > opportunities for black, white, yellow, male, female, rich, middle class > and poor. Got it? But people are different. Different races of mankind have > different physical, emotional and mental characteristics and, *generally*, > best live in different sorts of cultures. In terms of western-type society > in which you and I happen to live, whites are more adept than > African-derived blacks, and Asians are more adept than whites.(We already > have two or three Indian billionaires in this country who were thrown out > of Uganda by Amin 30 years ago and stripped of their possessions. Also, I > have not heard of any poor adult Chinese person in this country -- and I > wouldn't mind betting that there are none in San Francisco either.) The > prejudice of whites against blacks in this country is as nothing compared > with the hatred and trouble between Hindus and Moslems in our northern > towns, or Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland, or Walloons and > Flemings in Belgium, or the different tribes in Africa where they regularly > slaughter one another in their hundreds of thousands (somewhere between 2 > and 4 million in the Congo alone in the past few years), and we and our > newspapers hardly mention these incidents because our emotions are limited). > > All races and cultures are capable of the grossest savagery and murder but, > otherwise, different races and cultures are manifoldly different in their > daily lives. Not totally. But different enough for us to take notice and > discuss each situation intelligently without sounding off and denying what > actually happens in the real world. > > Keith Hudson > > > Keith Hudson, 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath, England > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
