As long as it isn't culturally derived.

REH


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Subject: Re: [Futurework] ) Hue and Cry on 'Whiteness Studies'


> Keith.
>
> We don't need a "fair playing field" in the universities. We need the best
> scholars without regard to race, or skin color, or anything else but their
> capacity most effectively to use the university resources.
>
> Playing with test scores and suchlike is road to disaster.
>
> The combination of poor students and "soft" courses is a disastrous
> direction for universities to follow yet we seem to be going that way.
>
> Large numbers of blacks inhabit our penitentiaries - mostly because they
> commit more than half the homicides and about 80% of the violent crimes
> (from 13% of the population).
>
> As you may know, I've visited hundreds of high schools. I noticed and was
> confirmed by the teachers, that on the East Coast, classes of black
> Americans that contained a number of West Indian blacks, the results were
> much better than all American black classes.
>
> Why did the West Indians have this effect?
>
> Different background - morality system? Don't know.
>
> Harry
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Keith wrote:
>
> >Harry,
> >
> >I think you're being much too cynical. I don't see why American state
> >universities shouldn't adopt affirmative action in the case of
> >Black-Americans. But if they do, they ought also to adopt negative action
> >in the case of Asian-Americans. The universities could then have a level
> >playing field for black, white or yellow.
> >
> >There's actually a quite simple method that would achieve fair results
> >without having to devise arbitrary points systems which compensate for
> >poor reading and writing ability. SATS results could be multiplied
> >inversely according to average racial IQs (or according to brain size).
> >Thus all Black-Americans' SATS score could be multiplied by 100/85, and
> >Asian-Americans' by 100/106 (or by 1347/1267 and 1347/1364 respectively
by
> >using brain size).
> >
> >I think some sort of adjustment should also be applied in the case of
> >prosecutory zeal by the police and prison sentencing by the courts. In
> >England we have tens of thousands of West Indian and African-born UK
> >citizens in jail, but only a few hundred Indian and Pakistani UK citizens
> >and, disgracefully, no more than half-a-dozen Chinese-UK citizens.
> >
> >Incidentally, here's a little story from my better-half. She taught in
one
> >of the "worst" schools in Bristol for over 20 years.  She reckons that
> >there were only two sorts of children who never caused any trouble (and
> >were also consistently among the brightest). These were the children of
> >the fairground travellers and the Chinese.
> >
> >Keith Hudson
> >
> >At 21:19 24/06/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >>Selma,
> >>
> >>This is just part of the absolute nonsense that surrounds unimportant
> >>differences in complexion. How these people in universities can waste
> >>their time on this is beyond belief.
> >>
> >>Academe would be put to better use if they taught their students
> >>plumbing, or something else equally useful.
> >>
> >>Harry
> >>----------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>Selma wrote:
> >>
> >>>It is my not so humble opinion that this kind of thing is absolutely
> >>>essential if we are ever to honestly confront the issues of race in
this
> >>>country.
> >>>
> >>>Selma
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hue and Cry on 'Whiteness Studies'
> >>> > An Academic Field's Take on Race Stirs Interest and Anger
> >>> > By Darryl Fears
> >>> >
> >>> > Washington Post
> >>> > Friday, June 20, 2003; Page A01
> >>> >
> >>> > AMHERST, Mass. -- Naomi Cairns was among the leaders in the
privilege
> >>>walk, and
> >>> > she wasn't happy about it.
> >>> >
> >>> > The exercise, which recently involved Cairns and her classmates in a
> >>>course at
> >>> > the University of Massachusetts, had two simple rules: When the
moderator
> >>>read
> >>> > a
> >>> > statement that applied to you, you stepped forward; if it didn't,
you
> >>>stepped
> >>> > back. After the moderator asked if you were certain you could get a
bank
> >>>loan
> >>> > whenever you wanted, Cairns thought, "Oh my God, here we go again,"
and
> >>>took
> >>> > yet
> >>> > another step forward.
> >>> >
> >>> > "You looked behind you and became really uncomfortable," said
Cairns, a
> >>> > 24-year-old junior who stood at the front of the classroom with
other
> >>>white
> >>> > students. Asian and black students she admired were near the back.
> >>> "We all
> >>> > started together," she said, "and now were so separated."
> >>> >
> >>> > The privilege walk was part of a course in whiteness studies, a
> >>> > controversial and relatively new academic field that seeks to change
how
> >>> > white people think about race. The field is based on a left-leaning
> >>> > interpretation of history by scholars who say the concept of race
was
> >>> > created by a rich white European and American elite, and has been
used to
> >>> > deny property, power and status to nonwhite groups for two
centuries.
> >>> >
> >>> > Advocates of whiteness studies -- most of whom are white liberals
who
> >>> hope
> >>> > to dismantle notions of race -- believe that white Americans are so
> >>> > accustomed to being part of a privileged majority they do not see
> >>>themselves as
> >>> > part of a race.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Historically, it has been common to see whites as a people who
don't
> >>> have
> >>>a
> >>> > race, to see racial identity as something others have," said Howard
> >>>Winant, a
> >>> > white professor of sociology at the University of California at
Santa
> >>>Barbara
> >>> > and a strong proponent of whiteness studies. "It's a great advance
to
> >>>start
> >>> > looking at whiteness as a group."
> >>> >
> >>> > Winant said whiteness studies advocates must be careful not to paint
> >>> white
> >>> > heritage with a broad brush, or stray from the historical record.
> >>> > Generalizations, he said, will only demonize whiteness.
> >>> >
> >>> > But opponents say whiteness studies has already done that. David
> >>> Horowitz,
> >>>a
> >>> > conservative social critic who is white, said whiteness studies is
> >>> leftist
> >>> > philosophy spiraling out of control. "Black studies celebrates
blackness,
> >>> > Chicano studies celebrates Chicanos, women's studies celebrates
> >>> women, and
> >>> > white
> >>> > studies attacks white people as evil," Horowitz said.
> >>> >
> >>> > "It's so evil that one author has called for the abolition of
whiteness,"
> >>>he
> >>> > said. "I have read their books, and it's just despicable."
> >>> >
> >>> > Whiteness studies, said Matthew Spalding, is "a derogatory name for
> >>>Western
> >>> > civilization." Its study is important only to those who think "black
> >>>studies
> >>> > and
> >>> > Chicano studies haven't gone far enough in removing the baggage of
> >>> > Anglo-European traditions," said Spalding, director of the Center
for
> >>>American
> >>> > Studies at the Heritage Foundation.
> >>> >
> >>> > "The notion that you can get rid of a historical tradition as a way
to
> >>> > further current . . . concerns strikes me as intellectually
misleading,"
> >>> > Spalding said. "It makes certain assumptions and looks for certain
> >>>outcomes.
> >>> > It's close-minded."
> >>> >
> >>> > Whiteness studies can be traced to the writings of black
intellectuals
> >>>such as
> >>> > W.E.B. DuBois and James Baldwin, but the field did not coalesce
until
> >>>liberal
> >>> > white scholars embraced it about eight years ago, according to some
who
> >>>helped
> >>> > shape it.
> >>> >
> >>> > Now, despite widespread criticism and what some opponents view as
major
> >>> > flaws in the curriculum, at least 30 institutions -- from Princeton
> >>> > University to the University of California at Los Angeles -- teach
> >>> courses
> >>> > in whiteness studies.
> >>> >
> >>> > The courses are emerging at a pivotal time. Scientists have
determined
> >>>that
> >>> > there is scant genetic distinction between races, and the 2000
Census
> >>>allowed
> >>> > residents to define themselves by multiple racial categories for the
> >>> first
> >>> > time.
> >>> > Dozens of books, such as "The Invention of the White Race," "How the
> >>> Irish
> >>> > Became White" and "Memoir of a Race Traitor," are standard reading
for
> >>>people
> >>> > who study whiteness. Recently, the Public Broadcasting System aired
a
> >>> > documentary titled "Race: The Power of an Illusion."
> >>> >
> >>> > "If you ask 10 people what is race, you're likely to get 10
different
> >>> > answers," said Larry Adelman, who conceived, produced and
co-directed
> >>> that
> >>> > documentary. "How many races would there be? Where did the idea come
> >>>from?"
> >>> >
> >>> > At U-Mass., those questions and others were raised in "The Social
> >>> > Construction of Whiteness and Women," one of two whiteness studies
> >>> courses
> >>> > Cairns took last semester.
> >>> > Read and Discuss
> >>> >
> >>> > The students, about three-quarters of them white, slid into desks
and
> >>> > unloaded giant book bags, which were stuffed with required reading.
The
> >>> > books included Theodore Allen's "The Invention of the White Race:
Racial
> >>> > Oppression and Social Control," which argues, in part, that the
> >>> collection
> >>> > of European immigrants into a white race was a political act to
control
> >>>the
> >>> > country.
> >>> >
> >>> > Arlene Avakian, the chairman of the U-Mass. women's studies
department,
> >>>sat on
> >>> > a
> >>> > wide desk, let her legs dangle and asked the class to discuss the
> >>> ideas of
> >>> > racial privilege, environmental comfort and social control. Not all
> >>> of her
> >>> > students had taken part in the privilege walk -- it was conducted in
> >>>another
> >>> > course -- but many of them had.
> >>> >
> >>> > Winnie Chen, 22, the daughter of Chinese immigrants, said it pained
> >>> her to
> >>> > deal with race every day when her white peers seemed to rarely think
> >>> about
> >>> > it. She tried to discuss race with a white friend once, she said,
but he
> >>> > felt ambushed.
> >>> >
> >>> > "He said I was pulling a Pearl Harbor on him," she said. "It is so
> >>>difficult
> >>> > for
> >>> > them to think there is another lens. He talked about Irish
oppression. I
> >>>asked,
> >>> > 'Have you ever considered why you're no longer oppressed here when
> >>> Asians,
> >>> > blacks and Hispanics still are?' "
> >>> >
> >>> > A white student raised her hand and said she and a friend had gone
to a
> >>>hall
> >>> > reserved for black student affairs, and the friend said she didn't
feel
> >>> > comfortable.
> >>> >
> >>> > Brandi-Ann Andrade, a 21-year-old junior who is black, rolled her
eyes.
> >>>"So
> >>> > what?" she asked. "I never feel comfortable here. I'm a student at a
> >>>school
> >>> > where most people are white. The only time I feel comfortable is
when I'm
> >>>at
> >>> > home."
> >>> >
> >>> > Dan Clason-Hook, 24, a white senior, said, "White students would
> >>> never say
> >>> > that we own the campus, but [whites] feel they do."
> >>> >
> >>> > The desire to always feel comfortable in their skin is something
white
> >>> > people feel entitled to, said Avakian, who is white. The dominant
group
> >>> > wants to control its environment, to own it.
> >>> >
> >>> > The students listened without objection, but they don't always.
Avakian
> >>>said
> >>> > two
> >>> > students in an earlier semester had challenged her, questioning why
she
> >>>taught
> >>> > the course. After some discussion, Avakian recalled, they concluded
her
> >>>reason
> >>> > was white guilt.
> >>> >
> >>> > Avakian dismissed that conclusion. "It's the suppressed history I'm
> >>> > interested in teaching," she said. "White people can't know
ourselves and
> >>> > our country without knowing this history."
> >>> >
> >>> > Although whiteness studies teachers adopt different approaches for
> >>>different
> >>> > courses, they draw on the same reading of history.
> >>> >
> >>> > That reading traces the invention of race to the time and social
class of
> >>> > Thomas Jefferson, who wrote in the late 18th century not only that
"all
> >>>men are
> >>> > created equal" in the Declaration of Independence, but also this,
> >>> from his
> >>> > "Notes on the State of Virginia":
> >>> >
> >>> > "I advance it, as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether
originally a
> >>> > distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are
> >>> inferior to
> >>> > the whites in the endowments both of body and mind."
> >>> >
> >>> > >From such sentiments, whiteness studies advocates say, race was
> >>> invented,
> >>> > and the idea of white superiority was crucial to justifying slavery
and,
> >>> > later, the dispossession of Native Americans, Hispanics and Asians.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Jefferson believed in majority rule, but what majority was he in?"
said
> >>> > historian James O. Horton of George Washington University. "He
wasn't in
> >>>the
> >>> > majority in terms of gender. He wasn't in the majority in terms of
class.
> >>>The
> >>> > only majority he was in was race."
> >>> >
> >>> > Horton said poor white workers often joined black slaves and freemen
in
> >>> > popular rebellions in the 18th century. For example, he said,
Crispus
> >>> > Attucks, a black man, was among the first to die when an interracial
mob
> >>> > confronted British soldiers in the "Boston Massacre," five years
before
> >>>the
> >>> > American Revolution started.
> >>> >
> >>> > But something happened between that time and Andrew Jackson's
presidency
> >>>in
> >>> > 1828, Horton said. "Property laws were struck down, allowing white
people
> >>>at
> >>> > the
> >>> > bottom of society to vote based on race in 1807. At the same time
> >>> that was
> >>> > done,
> >>> > race laws were put into its place.
> >>> >
> >>> > "There is this constant message hammered at poor white people,"
Horton
> >>>said.
> >>> > "You may be poor, you may have miserable lives right now, but . . .
the
> >>>thing
> >>> > we
> >>> > want you to focus on is the fact that you are white."
> >>> >
> >>> > In the 19th and 20th centuries, "race science" was used by Supreme
Court
> >>> > justices to deny rights, property and citizenship to various Asian
> >>> > immigrants.
> >>> >
> >>> > In the housing boom that followed World War II, black veterans were
> >>> denied
> >>> > new federally backed mortgages that helped build white suburbs.
> >>> >
> >>> > Avakian said that if American history curriculums "told that story,
this
> >>> > would be a different country."
> >>> >
> >>> > "Slavery and genocide coexist with democracy and freedom," she said,
and
> >>> > that's what whiteness studies teaches. "President Andrew Jackson
presided
> >>> > during the mass murder of Indians. If we knew in detail how slavery
> >>>existed
> >>> > alongside freedom, we would have to change the national narrative."
After
> >>>Class
> >>> >
> >>> > Chen said Avakian's course made her more aware of how the sense of
> >>>belonging
> >>> > corresponds to skin color. "I would never not choose to be someone's
> >>>friend
> >>> > because they are white, but I think it's important to have friends
of
> >>>color,"
> >>> > she said.
> >>> >
> >>> > Jya Plavin, a 20-year-old sophomore who is white, said the course
"was
> >>> > really, really hard . . . both personally and as a white person,
because
> >>>you
> >>> > really want to take the focus off you and your whiteness."
> >>> >
> >>> > Clason-Hook said that the class was the only one he knew of that
> >>>explicitly
> >>> > spoke of whiteness, and that it helped him realize that "other
classes,
> >>>like
> >>> > economics, politics and history, are about whiteness. They are
written by
> >>>and
> >>> > are about white people."
> >>> >
> >>> > He said later that confronting whiteness, day to day, is
challenging. "I
> >>>am
> >>> > racist. It's not on the surface, but it's in me. Day to day I hear
racist
> >>> > comments, and people don't even know what they're saying."
> >>> >
> >>> > Andrade said she thought "the class was beneficial, because it
brings to
> >>> > light that white people, too, are racialized."
> >>> >
> >>> > Thinking back on the class discussion a few days later, Andrade
wondered:
> >>> > "In a culture that puts whiteness on top, what is blackness? When
you
> >>> look
> >>> > at whiteness, blackness is always in the negative."
> >>> >
> >>> > Cairns, who had sailed through the privilege walk, said whiteness
studies
> >>> > helped her understand race a little better. "My social group has
always
> >>>been
> >>> > white," she said. "I've noticed that, and I've started to look
beyond my
> >>> > group."
>
>
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> Harry Pollard
> Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles
> Box 655   Tujunga   CA   91042
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