At Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:26:32 -0700 "Ronald F. Guilmette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you wr > ote: > > >2008/8/5 Ronald F. Guilmette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> I want a "console" xterm window (iconified) in the upper right of > >> my screen, with a small font. Even though I start up X as an > >> ordinary non-root user, I want that "console" xterm to be associated > >> with the system console, i.e. so that I can de-iconify it anytime > >> I want and look at recent console messages, e.g. if I think I'm > >> being attacked and want to see recent IPFW firewall messages. > >> (Yes, I _do_ know that I may have to see the permissions on the > >> /dev/console very loosely in order to do this as an ordinary user. > >> That's OK. I don't mind. I'm the only person that uses this system, > >> ever.) > > > >So you mean xconsole, then? > > No, A real Xterm window. > > >> I'd like all Xterms to be associated with a proper sort of Xterm > >> icon, like they were in the Old Days. (I just installed fvwm 2.4.0 > >> from the ports collection on FreeBSD and the Xterm icon seems to no > >> longer be associated with iconified Xterm windows. What did I do > >> wrong?) > > > >You assumed. That's what's wrong. :P You probably need to copy over your > >existing .xpm files from your installation. > > OK, but aren't icons for usual things (e.g. Xterm) part of either fvwm or > else the X window system itself? Only in the sense that one of the X window system distro packages includes directories full of stock icons of various sizes. fvwm also includes a package contains directories full of stock icons of various sizes as well. It is up to you the user to associate icons with programs/tasks/windows. This is done in your .fvwmrc file: I use the FvwmIconBox, so I have these lines in my .fvwmrc file: *FvwmIconBox "Fvwm*" - *FvwmIconBox "FvwmFileMgr" folder2.xpm *FvwmIconBox "rxvt" term.xpm *FvwmIconBox "editres" editres.xpm *FvwmIconBox "xman" xman.xpm *FvwmIconBox "xbiff" mail1.xpm *FvwmIconBox "xcalc" xcalc.xpm *FvwmIconBox "GoodStuff" toolbox.xpm *FvwmIconBox "xterm" Term *FvwmIconBox "ME310" METerm *FvwmIconBox "FCPU30" FCTerm *FvwmIconBox "FCPU40" FCTerm *FvwmIconBox "STRIDE" StrideTerm *FvwmIconBox "MenuManager" menu32 *FvwmIconBox "xclock" - *FvwmIconBox "xeyes" - as well as: PixmapPath /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ IconPath /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps If you want (and allow) icons on the root window (desktop), you'd use the Icon directive instead of *FvwmIconBox as shown above. > > >> When I iconify ordinary windows (e.g. Firefox) I'd like them to iconify > >> into positions along the RIGHT edge of the screen, starting at the top, > >> just below the iconified console Xterm, and then going down along the > >> right edge of my screen as I iconify more windows. That's the way that > >> fvwm 1.x did things, but now, fvwm2 seems to want to iconify by default > >> things like firefox into the LOWER LEFT corner of my screen. (What did > >> I do wrong?) > > > >You didn't do anything wrong here -- by default unless you change it, the > >icon > >placements default to the whole screen. You want to specify the following in > >your config file: > > > >Style * IconBox a b c d, IconFill t r, IconGrid 30 30 > > Ummm... OK. Obviously. :-) > > >I will talk more about this later. > > That will help. > > >> I'd kind-of like the colors of the borders of focused and unfocused > >> windows to go back to the colors I selected for this with fvwm1, i.e. > >> a sort of a light gold and a dark gold, respectively. With fvwm2, this > >> seems to have cheanged into pink and dark grey. (Again, what did I do > >> wrong?) > > > >Nothing. You're not aware of colorsets (in your case via FvwmTheme for FVWM > >2.4.20). The way you're specifying the colours now for focused and unfocused > >windows are obsolete by far. > > OK, and to fix it, I do what? > > >> The only other stuff I really want is a numeric clock and an ordinary > >> circular clock, someplace towards the bottom right of my screen, a little > >> Xbiff mail thingy someplace down in that corner (at some convenient > >> smallish size) and also down in that corner, a couple of buttons that I > >> can press whenever I want to spawn a new Xterm that will run over on one > >> or another of the other machines on my network, but that will display > >> on the screen I'm looking at... the one under control of fvwm. > > > >And the default ConfigFvwmButtons file defines something approximating this. > > > >>So what say you folks? Will anybody take pity on me and help me? Included > >> below is (1) my current/old .xinitrc file and (2)my current/old .fvwmrc > >> file > >> that works OK with fvwm 1.x. (I don't even know where I got most of this > >> stuff anymore. I probably just hacked around, haphazardly, on example > >> config > >> files provided with fvwm1 until I kind-of got what I wanted. But even that > >> was only done years and years ago, and so I've even forgotten how fvwm1 > >> works!) > > > >I will convert your .fvwmrc file to something which works on FVWM 2.5.26 -- > >and that's final. I am not going to bugger about on 2.4.20 setting up > >FvwmTheme, etc. You really do want FVWM 2.5.26 -- since you're on one of the > >*BSDs that's a shame, but I will let you figure out how to install that. :) > > OK, no problem. I can do that. FreeBSD is setup to allow install of > either 2.4.0 or else the latesr 2.5.x. > > I have no problem using 2.5.x. The only reason I didn't start there was > because it was said to me non-stable, and comments on the wab site to > the effect that "If something breaks with this, we won't help you." > > >I will send you an email later after work with a modified file. > > Thank you a LOT! > > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
