How could they call themselves "ISPs" if they start blocking
ports. I believe that ISPs are not allowed to blocking any kind
of information which is available out on the net be it p0rn or
anything else, if they are doing so then they would be breaching
there agreement to provide free flow of information...

This could be taken up with some authority which overlooks
ISPs...

Naveen




Scott Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/16/2000 11:19:23 AM

To:   "'Jarmoc, Jeff'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
      "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Valerie
      Leveille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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      Naveen Malhotra/New York/ACMC)
Subject:  RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's




As long as they don't start port blocking (especially on 264)
then it should
be OK for Check Point Securemote at least.

Scott J. Friedman
Senior Systems Administrator
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jarmoc, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:08 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Valerie Leveille
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Subject: RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's



So far, comcast@home is the only one implementing this rule.
AT&T, Excite,
etc seem to not be changing yet.  The wording of the contract is
vague, but
it's in the section about not running servers, so I think they're
more
concerned about having people VPN into your cable modem, not
VPNing out to
your office network, though I don't see any distinction being
made.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 3:22 AM
To: Valerie Leveille
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's




BT are doing a similar thing in the UK for their ADSL service in
terms of
server usage not being allowed unless you have a business
connection.

Haven't seen anything banning VPN usage though and I hope not to.
Are we
going to have a crazy situation where people who already have
consumer
connection have to have service replaced ?

Tim Higgins





                    "Valerie Leveille"

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                    15/08/00 17:54










It's true. I called the corporate headquarters for Comcast@Home
this
morning. The person I talked to on the phone last night said that
if they
saw VPN traffic coming from me, that they would warn me a few
times and
then if I didn't comply, they would terminate my service. That's
why I
called the corporate headquarters. I saw nothing on the
excite@home site
about this change so I don't wonder if it's the local divisions
making
their own rules. (I'm in Detroit). Anyway the person from
corporate
headquarters promised (yeah right) to have someone in upper
management
contact me within 24 hours.

I contact my local State Attorney General and they said that
there's
nothing they can do. The Better Business Bureau wants me to try
and resolve
it with Comcast before I resort to them.

How many people are affected by this? If we cause enough grief
will they
take it out of their agreement. I can't believe that they aren't
allowing
people to protect their data. They fed me the line that if you're
doing
that it's a "business connection" and they're going to charge you
more.
ALOT MORE! Ameritech wants $100 a month for a static IP address
and they
don't currently prohibit VPN traffic (but that's doesn't mean
that they
won't pull a @Home fiasco in the future). Comcast@Home had a
"business
division" for cable modems. Do you want to know how much they're
charging
for basically the same service I have now (currently $36/month)
except that
I'm allowed to have VPN's --> $1295 installation and $225/month!

This is ridiculous!

Valerie




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