Absolutely.. Similiar said for other ISP's who do not want to deal with
personal firewall/ids logs. According to one Network Security Officer of a
major ISP. We just won't support the customer if they use x but will if
they use our VPN solution.. Hmm seems like they don't have their act together.
/m
At 11:31 PM 8/15/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Come on , guys. They aren't really gonna BAN VPN's, they just don't want to
>deal with the support calls....
>
>(I can't get my ...... working through your network.)
>
>Now they can point to a policy....
>
>
>Thomas Poole
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:02 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's
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>
> From what I have read on this list and elsewhere, the VPN ban is not an
>@home
>thing but a COMCAST@home thing.. an ARIN search for Comcast resulted in a
>long
>list none of which included any part of the 24.x.x.x network... :-(
>
>-Gary
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>| | <jkowall@cintera|
>| | ctive.com> |
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>| | 08/15/2000 09:27|
>| | PM |
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> | Subject: RE: RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's
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>Well they share the same class A ips.
>
>Here is a search for 24.0.0.0 from arin.
>
>@Home Network (NETBLK-ATHOME) ATHOME 24.0.0.0 -
>24.23.255.255
>@Home Network (NETBLK-CORP-RDC-SC-1) CORP-RDC-SC-1 24.0.0.0 -
>24.0.0.255
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:53 PM
>To: Jonah Kowall; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: OT: RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's
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>
>Definitely not the same network.
>
>MediaOne sold off the "internet" division and it became "RoadRunner".
>Even though RoadRunner is one company, the network is broken up a bit
>by regional location. Some regions have their own DS3/OC12 internet
>connections
>and were originally autonomous prior to the merger of MediaOne Express and
>RoadRunner.
>
>With the AT&T purchase of Mediaone (cable television), due to some oddities
>in how all
>these companies evolved, some regions are no longer RoadRunner and the
>broadband internet
>divisions are being sold to AT&T along with the Television services.
>
>So once the merger with AT&T is complete, several locations like
>Jacksonville, FL will
>become their own networks seperate from RoadRunner like it was prior to the
>mergers.
>
>Comcast shares no resources with TimeWarner, MediaOne or their RoadRunner
>venture.
>
>I figured the reason for the "ban" on home use was MONEY.
>Pretty obvious, it's not that they are imposing an all out "ban".
>They just want your money, how nice.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Jonah Kowall
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 5:39 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's
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>Mostly they own 24.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 I don't know if they own it all, but a
>good portion. I know mediaone, @home, and time warner are all on
>24.0.0.0/255.0.0.0. I'm not sure if they are all the same network.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 5:17 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [FW1] @Home ban of VPN's
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>Does anyone know if there are specific IP ranges associated with
>Comcast@Home?
>We have several hundred SR users in the US and I'm sure most of them ignore
>email from their ISP.. I'd like to run a report on our fw logs to get users
>names that may be impacted by this new policy.
>
>
>-Gary
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>
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>| | Michael |
>| | Doleman |
>| | <MDoleman@hcd|
>| | .ca.gov> |
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>I contacted @Home this afternoon--I had been scheduled for installation this
>week. Needless to say, I cancelled my order.
>
>Bottom line is that they DO intend to implement a policy of banning VPN
>traffic over their network for @Home subscribers. How they intend to enforce
>such a policy effectively is open to speculation.
>
>I was given a few explanations as to why they intend to ban VPN. The first
>was that they "don't support networks." Funny, eh? Second was that it
>requires too much bandwidth. Finally, the "@Home network is intended for
>business use." I.e., they clearly want people to pay-up for the "@Work"
>service in order to do VPN from home.
>
>Michael Doleman
>
>P.S.--When I first called today and mentioned VPN, the rep. declared that
>"we've been getting slammed with calls like this..." I suspect that if
>people keep the pressure on them, we'll see a rapid retreat from the policy.
>
>
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