You know what I find funny in this whole software upgrade trap we are in (or that they are trying to push us into).... they sometimes slip up and prove themselves wrong, they sometimes prove you don't need the newest fancy machine to do all the "magic" things they are saying you need the new fancy machine for. Let me explain... I can remember watching youtube and other flash type videos on my Late 2001 Ibook (g3 600mhz, 640mb ram, 5400rpm hd) when those things just started to get popular, although you did need to tweak settings and only watch videos at lower res/smaller sizes but it was still possible until they "upgraded" the flash plugins/webbrowsers/os (which now became even more resource hungry while doing the same task). At that point in time the G3 wasn't the newest cpu but it was still in the race at the mid to low end of computers. I can also remember when the itunes store first started offering music videos and for a very short time you could watch them on a g3 but again you had to watch in a smaller window but you could at least watch them, I know because I bought exactly 1 video at $1.99 as a test of this new service (I'm not sure if it was actually supported on G3s but I don't recall them saying you needed a G4 at the beginning or I never would've bought a video in the first place) . However again an "upgrade" to the quicktime/iTunes/ fairplay software ended that and they started listing that you needed a G4 minimum to play video (not sure exactly which software "upgrade" broke video play on G3 but it was one of those three). Another funny thing about the whole DRM video scam is that while I couldn't watch the DRM'd video I actually bought after their "upgrades" I could still watch the free videos that came with a few of my albums from itunes which were encoded in the same format except for the DRM component. After that I boycotted the itunes store for a year because I had bought something that one of their "upgrades" rendered useless and because they were basicly asking/forcing people to upgrade their machines just so they could handcuff them with stronger DRM which amounts in my mind to the consumer paying directly for the DRM. The two iPhone versions run at 412mhz & 600mhz and they do web, youtube, pictures, DRM'd video, spotlight, etc so why exactly is my 600mhz ibook considered outdated and not able to run the latest software? I think maybe apple needs a light weight version of OSX for the desktop, one that strips out all the services and crap that just eat cpu cycles without any benefit to the average user. The iphone proves that a lot of crap can be clipped from the system to increase performance on lower power cpus. I guess none of that would help powerpc owners with osx going intel only but I'm sure that OS/software bloat isn't helping people with core solo or core duo cpus either....
Joe On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > On 8/30/09 10:02 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> >> Why? Did you not move from 68K to PowerPC? In a few years your Macs >> will be where 68K were long ago, and OS 9 is now: no new updates, >> stuff is increasingly breaking, and many now things are simply >> unavailable. >> > Bruce, I do not disagree with the statements of facts you've made > here. However, from a personal standpoint, I wish not to be part of > the moving machine, the game, to be exact. What is the game? The > game that born need, need I did not know I had until an Intel mac > came about, such needs. When one considers what macs older than G4s > can do now, it's indeed worrying thinking that we're leaving behind > now the G4s. > > And I know that its purely a business move; Apple would not survive > if it had continued supporting OS9. Personally, I think after Tiger > there was no need for another OS. Likewise after Windows 2000, maybe > XP, no need for anything else. But that's me. I also accept that web > apps continue to improve, but to have applications move hardware the > way it's doing, one can wonder freely whether it's a good thing for > consumers, the environment, etc. > > That I cannot watch Youtube on this Ti400 because of hardware lag is > hardly progress. Whereas much older machines than this would run, at > the very basic, a web browser, not the newer ones of course. Having > said all this, and more that I could, I recognize the business > explanations, fully. This is a personal thing. Yes, I won't mind > hanging onto my PowerPCs machines in years to come. I'm not one to > swim with the tide. I tend to hang onto a tree, and observe. And > what you've read here is what I saw, while looking. > > And I also saw that the washing machine, dish washer, automobile, > atomic bomb, train, Intel macs, airplane, were all sold to the > public as time savers, among other features. Yet, time remains the > one of the most highly desired component of our lives today, decades > after some of these technologies were sold us. When you consider > what we used to do without all of the above, you wonder, don't you, > where the heck time has gone to. Killing people, for instance, is > still time consuming, as is watching Youtube on this Ti. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
