On Thursday, Sep 12, 2002, at 16:07 Europe/London, Eric B. Richardson wrote:
> Computers are evolving. Your computer hardware today is not doing > anything less than when you bought it. If you want it to do more, you > need to upgrade. Upgrading a Mac remains less problematic than > upgrading windows. But more often than not more costly. The best thing about Macs is they rarely need upgrading in their first 3-4 years of life unless you need absolute cutting edge or you count adding RAM. That is where PCs fall down. >> has code in X.2 >> to prevent it's use in 'non-supported pre G3 Macs', Actually it doesn't. All it has is a block to stop it running on 604e powered pre-G3 machines. With the help of a utility called XPostFacto you can use it on any PCI PowerMac supported by Ryan Rempel's XPostFacto utility with a G3 or G4 upgrade. This opens it to 73-500, 85/600 and 95/600 machines as well as many upgraded Powerbooks. Of course this is done without Apple's consent or support but hey.... > OS X.2 will run in g3's that are 6-7 years old. Will XP run in > machines that old? It won't 'officially' run on machines of that age. As for Windows XP - I've run it on a P166 with 64MB RAM, i dunno how old they are.... >> will or has disabled X in accelerated Macs using 3rd >> party CPUs, > > You must mean that it is not supported for machines that run g3's off > a PCI card in a 68K machine. They didn't disable it, they just didn't > try to support things that they never sold, and never intended it for > use. > > My accelerated G3 ZIF mac runs it just fine, and I haven't heard > anyone running dual processor PCI cards in G3 machines complaining > either. No but in the future Apple will cease support for the G3 CPU itself which will stop any G3s, new-world or not, from working. This is a good few years off though as the bulk of home and semi-pro Apple machines are G3s, be they PowerMacs, PowerBooks, iMacs or iBooks. I personally have 2 G3 machines that are supported that run Jaguar superbly, and a 604e/200 powered 7300 running OS X 10.1.5 Server to the best of it's ability. >> has enabled very few video cards to work >> with QE (this flying in the face of Invidia releasing >> it's architecture to the Open Source crowd) and I'm >> probably missing something. > > QE is meant to work with a certain amount of dedicated video memory > using a chipset that communicates through a video transfer system, > AGP, that has been the standard for several years now. The fact that > it doesn't support a standard that is several years old, PCI, should > not be surprising. The reason that only a few AGP cards work with QE currently is because it gives little advantage on PCI cards. I know people from LEM and another forum where I hang that have tried it with 32MB PCI Radeon cards and the improvements are very minimal, it's a nice thing to hack but it's not really worth doing. >> There are two Quicksilver (867 MHz) on local auction >> today, but they were dropped in January, 2002. One had >> 10.04 - very sluggish. Unless you have a lot of money >> and time to tweak SW and HW, you see the picture. >> Clients don't know or don't see the difference - thank >> Heaven. The upgrade to 10.1 was $20. 10.1.5 runs really well if you ignore the fact it's not Jaguar. Another $100 for Jaguar isn't a massive lay out if you have a machine that can take advantage of it like a G4/867. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: <http://fpm.gotdns.com> Mac LC Central -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! <http://www.applelinks.com>
