--- "David M. Ensteness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Eh, yeah, but you can always say that about
> anything, nothing is ever 
> what it really should be in its first revision or
> so.
<<<< well, now, since Jag is such a
departure/evolution compared to pre-Jag, where did it
come from? >>>

> > Funny no-one mentioned Java
> > - still not included in X, and the judge in the M$
> > case is considering Sun's request to 'force' M$ to
> > include Java in Windows (imagine that!).
> 
> Uhm, JAVA is included in Mac OS X, has since the
> Public Beta, in fact 
> 10.0 used JAVA 2.0, the first OEM OS to do so ...
> Jaguar uses the most 
> current JAVA version. I swear you and I talked about
> this before, don't 
> you develop JAVA? If I recall your past complaint
> was that Apple was 
> not maintaining up-to-date JAVA on Mac OS X
> v.10.1.x, and that is a 
> completely valid contention.
> 
> > Letting snippets of X be OpenSource - what next? A
> GNU
> > licence for Jaguar (since Quartz Extreme already
> > existed 6 months prior to Jag's release - you pay
> > shareware $10).
> 
> Ah, who told you that Quartz Extreme was OpenSource?
> Or is this just a made up example?

<<<<<< try here: www.pollet.net/GLterm >>>>>>

> 
> > And Red Hat's stock has taken off recently -
> finally
> > the chickens come home to roost.
> 
> I think you need to revise you theory a little, but
> RedHat's success is 
> good for Apple and Macintosh as a platform, Linux
> and UNIX [Mac OS X 
> included] work well together, YAY for 
> Linux, YAY for UNIX, YAY for Mac OS X.

<<< I agree, but for the price of one iMac (flat
screen), you get 3 or 4 Dell towers with CRT screen,
same amount of Ram and HDD space and maybe a CDRW if
on special. Apple - quo vadis?
George


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 all thy strength, and with all thy mind;                     
 and thy neighbour as thyself."                           
 Quoted from St Luke, 10:27.

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