** Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-03 13:02]: > On Thursday, June 03, 2004, at 12:24PM, Paul Tansom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >** Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-03 07:41]: > >> Like anything with PSU re-wiring take it steady, do it methodically and > >> check, check and check again. I've done a few projects like this, it's > >> a long job but cool when it finally works :-D > > > >That goes without saying :-) I'm hoping to track down an extension lead > >or connectors to save damage to a PSU in case I want to use it as ATX > >again - assuming I go for it though. > > Sensible. Fitting an ATX PSU would also allow for a higher than original rating PSU. > The only problem is what to do with the auxiliary power cabling present on some > PSUs, might warrant a bit of tape over the connectors and tying back.
Definately, space inside the cases isn't something I'm familiar with. It looks a lot better than the units I have opened (pre PPC mainly), but a picture doesn't really compare to hands on experience. > >My main concern is the overall cost once it is up and running again. > >I've seen B&W G3s for just over the 100ukp for system unit only on eBay > > I hadn't realised they had gone down in proice so far. I paid 400 GBP on the nail > for mine this time 2 years ago (scary thought that - I forgot it was that long > ago!!) and it's served me very well (and still does). On further investigation that may be a peculiarity of eBay. Although I am by no means 'in the know' as to where to purchase Mac kit at good prices, I've come across 2ndchancepc.co.uk where a basic B&W G3 appears to be retailing at around 349ukp +vat (and presumably postage). > >and this barebones looks likely to be about 50ukp, which feels a bit > >high to me > > A *good* (i.e. Rev 2 400 or 450 MHz) G3 B&W will likely set you back 3 times that, > depending on what size hard drive, RAM etc. it has in it. Prices on ebay UK look > very variable though. Could land a bargain if you play your cards right. It's noting the subtle differences that is the problem as far as I can see. There seems to be a lot that is down to the motherboard revision, and getting a Rev 1 appears to be a bad choice whatever model you go for! > >but I'm no Mac expert. The intact beige ones look likely to > >be a similar price. > > You have to consider that the Beige is on the old side of Apple's new 'Great Divide' > of machines that support OS X. Old World support was pulled in Panther and, although > XPostFacto can easily restore that, there are other issues with Old World machines > that are harder to overcome - remember the Beoige G3 has no USB built in and uses > ADB peripherals. Yup, I was already unsure about the beige G3. It seems possible but by no means easy to do what I want, and for a relative newbie that sounds like a recipie for disaster! > >I'll probably get there and find that is a good price and as a result they've gone!! > > I'd be marginal if someone offered me a Beige G3 for ?50. I bought a 9600 for that > and although the G3 MT shares a similar case, the PCI slots and slightly biggre box > make the 9600 a much better server! If you just want a tidy G3 desktop it'd be OK, > but a good few upgrades are required to make it match a stock G3 B&W. At the moment I'm pretty much aiming at the G3 or above. If it looks good in the 'flesh' (motherboard and processor in tact, I know there's a lot of wiring missing beyond the parts) then I may give it a go. I would guess that I could sort out new memory, HD, PSU, keyboard and mouse for around 100ukp to 150ukp ish (based on 256M and 80G) which looks likely to give me a good spec machine for the bottom end of the OS X compatible boxes. I can probably save on that by initially using spare bits I have lying around, although that will be lower spec. That would cover my requirements of a box to experiment with networking to my Linux servers and test web pages on as well as giving me something to play with cross compiling some of my usual applications (for fun, if I get the time!). I have a suspision that I may well like OS X when I get my hands on it. ** end quote [Mark Benson] -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
