On Oct 21, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Simon Royal wrote:

> That involves having a PC correct. Sorry I don't allow those in my  
> house.

The only card that normally required a PC was the 7000, BUT, that has  
changed, and you can now do 7000's also without a PC, so the answer is  
NO, you don't need a PC for any card. The only requirement would be  
you'd need a PCI card so that you can see your monitor while you're  
flashing the AGP card.

> Seriously though, it might be easier to get a PC one as they go for  
> peanuts
> compared to Mac ones.

I paid over $100 for my first 7000 PCI directly from ATI in Canada. My  
2nd was less than $25 and worked identically. My third was about $50  
for a Radeon 8500 which is about double a 7000, and Mac ones were  
going for $200-ish. ATI has treated Mac customers poorly in my  
opinion. Strangely, I had a PC "hackintosh" for a short while, and my  
Mac card wouldn't work at all, so I had to flash it back to PC in  
order to run OS X. That was a shocker, a Mac card that wouldn't work  
with OS X. I think the Intel Macs can use normal PC cards now?

Aside from flashing the card, there may be other minor considerations.  
Some cards have sleep issues I hear, but since I never use sleep, I  
don't know anything about these issues, or what cards are effected. If  
you disable sleep, no problems. A 2nd minor issue is the fact that PC  
cards VRAM speeds are sometimes different than Mac cards and minor  
"tweaking" of the GPU and bus MHz speeds may be required for perfect  
"artifact free" function. My experience has been the most PC cards  
have faster VRAM than Mac cards and thus work fine without "tweaking"  
or better yet, can be safely overclocked to operate faster than the  
Mac cards would.

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