On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Doug McNutt wrote:

> And a previous point was made abut Apple making continued  
> compatibility with Tiger more of a problem.
>
> But personally my problem is with OS-9 on this 8500 which I love.
>
> As for the original poster, the absolute biggest problem with older  
> machines as a cost containment issue for the good-enough-for-me-and- 
> my-pocketbook crowd is the unconstrained "advance" of the internet.  
> An unmaintained browser becomes obsolete in two years and useless  
> in five. If a five year old machine is not maintained by a software  
> provider due to a lack of compatible development environments that  
> older computer WILL become useless on the world wide web. (Can you  
> still hear Henry Ford with his 6 year automobile?)
>
> I'm running a G4 sawtooth for graphics - Vectorworks - which in my  
> retired state I can no longer keep current. Safari and Firefox  
> versions for that machine are not up to the task. Classilla for  
> this OS-9 box helps but iCab has stopped working.
>
> My "current" machine for the web cost less than a kilobuck new and  
> the regularly updated software is all free. I have had it a bit  
> over a year and it has been problem-free. It's a Hewlett Packard 64  
> bit machine running Ubuntu Linux. The graphical user interface,  
> gnome, is more like OS-9 than OS neXt and I like that. But the UNIX  
> command line interface is more like my life in 1975 than is OS-X  
> and I like that too.
>
> The OP mentioned using a netbook, or was it a notebook? Ubuntu will  
> likely run on any machine like that but Intel hardware would be  
> preferred. It costs nothing to try it out. Well. . . you can buy a  
> CD-ROM instead of burning your own with a really long download.
>
> -- 
> --> So do we celebrate the start of a new decade at the end of this  
> year? Or do the tens start at in January 2011? Was the first year,  
> 0000 ACE, assigned Roman numeral I ?<--

Ubuntu is good as long as your hardware is supported, just a not to  
everybody though. DO NOT install any form of linux onto your intel  
Mac. The intel Macs have a chip called the SMC that passes all  
machine control to the OS, such as fan speeds, CPU speed, and most  
importantly, CPU voltage. Linux doesn't understand the SMC chip and  
therefore over-voltages the CPU. As electrons are being forced  
through the CPU, they start jumping the electron paths inside the  
CPU. The electrons start boring holes in between the paths and short  
them out, ending in a dead CPU. Just a warning to anyone who wants to  
run linux on their intel Mac. If you have to have linux on your Mac,  
do it in a VM or on a PPC Mac (the PPC Macs don't have this 'feature')

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