On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:58 AM, ===( )8> wrote:

>
> The Quicksilver, the Mini, the Farallon and the DSL modem are all
> plugged into the Ethernet port (Asante 10T/8).

I think your problem is pretty simple. It sounds like you've connected  
a DSL router to a switched network directly, and it doesn't work this  
way.

[NOTE: this only holds of the DSL box you have has only one Ethernet  
port on it, if it's got 4 then it's broken; get a new one]

DSL and Cable "modems" are actually routers in that they connect a  
SINGLE ethernet device to an external network. Most will only  
recognize a single MAC address until restarted.

What your DSL modem 'sees' now is a collection of  several computers  
all connecting to it at once instead of the one device it's supposed to.

The solution is to use a router in the middle, so that your DSL modem  
sees a single device (the router) which then takes care of keeping all  
your computers sorted.

ASCIIGraphically (switch to a monospaced font to see this):

What you have:

{Internet}----[DSL]------Mac1
                 |--------Mac2
                 |--------Mac3

...etc.

The DSL modem cannot do the local area networking properly, it'll only  
assign an IP address to one Mac at a time, and that address is likely  
in a different range than your Appletalk network is, so what happens  
is that the Mac you access the internet loses track of the rest of  
your LAN. The DSL router wants to make a LAN of only one of the  
computers it connects to. The switch is actually invisible to the  
network; it does not have an IP or Ethernet Address, it's merely a  
wiring solution in this sense.


What you need:

{Internet}----[DSL]---[Router]---Mac1
                         |--------Mac2
                         |--------Mac3

So now the DSL modem is happy, it has only one device to ever talk to,  
and your Macs are happy, they get fed IPm addresses by the router and  
all is golden.

The router can either be a wired one like this: <http://tinyurl.com/yhydkmg 
 >, or a wireless one like this <http://tinyurl.com/yfnfcz6>

The key to understanding this is the difference between routers and  
switches (or hubs).

A router handles traffic going between network segments: between two  
LANS or between your LAN and the Internet. A switch (or hub though  
they're much rarer now) handles traffic on a single network segment  
(your LAN)

Cable and DSL routers are special case routers...they'll only talk to  
ONE device, whether it's a single computer or another router.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


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