hmmm sounds like a lot of work.
good I have 7, there is probably an easier tway to handle it.
At 02:19 PM 2/16/2014, you wrote:
Hi.
I'm doing ok with windows 8.1. I don't bother with the start screen
much, I just use the desktop, the start screen search box and pretty
much everything else. I don't run any metro apps hardly, when I do I
have to mess around with my screen settings since I like to keep my
computer outputting to a projector that isn't there to save energy.
Result being that the apps won't run until I fix my resolution, so I
have to switch back to my touch screen output. At first you think
it's less accessible because, if you're using JAWS anyway, you'll
notice things that the JAWS cursor won't read on 8.1 that it reads
just fine on the same window in windows 7. third party applications
like live drive desktop is what I'm talking about, not built in
windows 8.1 applications that would be designed different possibly.
Take the same version of live drive desktop and read the status
window using the JAWS cursor on windows 7, now take same version of
exact same app and install that on 8.1 and try to read the status
window with JAWS cursor again, same version of jaws of course.
You'll just be able to read the title of the status window and
nothing else. You think ug this sucks why did they break it! But if
you switch to the touch cursor in JAWS you can read it just fine,
and if you touch the screen if you have a touch screen it works fine
that way too. I encounter this in quite a few places, but the touch
cursor always works well enough, sometimes it's nicer than doing it
with the JAWS cursor.
One of my friends was talking to me, saying he was not liking
something about 8.1, when you copy files into some place that
already has existing files there, the dialogue asking if you want to
overwrite etc isn't accessible. Won't read with the jaws cursor and
you can't tab through the options. They were going to downgrade from
8.1 to windows 7 on a brand new computer. I got on my netbook at the
time my only 8.1 computer, I installed a demo of 8.1 using
Winstaller on that old netbook so I'd be learning about it. Anyway,
I booted up my old netbook into my demo windows 8.1 and tried that,
and discovered that you can't read it with the jaws cursor. You can,
however, read them with the touch cursor and, even better, you can
leave it on pc cursor and just arrow between the choices, tab
doesn't work, but arrow keys do just fine and the wording of the
choices is really an improvement.
So you see things like that happen a lot. People just need a couple
of big problems and that ruins it for them. But the way around this
is to approach this in the kind of manner of, this is ok in windows
7, how about I just assume they didn't completely break this and try
for a while to really find a solution. I'll just do anything I can
think of. There's got to be a way to make this work. And that has
helped me find solutions for me and my friends quite a few times,
especially now that my primary laptop is a Lenovo Yoga 2 pro that
came with windows 8.1.
Folks complain about the start screen. Not me, I didn't use the
start menu in 7 unless I had to anyway. That search box is great,
only downside to how that is in 8.1 over 7 is it searches for a lot
more stuff by default and it's slower at coming up with search results. I
solved that problem by installing classic shell and just selecting
to use classic start menu, not classic explorer and classic IE I
like how those work in 8.1, don't need any modifications there. Then
I noticed that classic start menu's search box is sort of lousy it
doesn't come up with the same search results you'd expect from the 7
start menu, so if it fails on me I just hit windows+q and type into
that search box what I want and that usually works fine.
That reminds me of another thing. Another friend was really
disappointed that he couldn't adjust his detail view settings in
8.1's file browser (8.1's name for windows explorer). It took a
while, but I figured out that in the ribbon if you hit alt v to get
to the view tab, then use your tab key to find the views button
dropdown grid, don't ask me what that actually means, and hit said
button, it exposes other options that you can now tab through like
add columns and such that gives you the same abilities you expect in
the view menu of explorer on windows 7. Same goes for folder
options, we knew we could go to folder options in control panel, but
in 8.1 you can't seem to find folder options in the file manager,
something you need to do if you want to modify folder options,
namely going in there to hit apply to all folders of this type for
making sure all music folders display the way the one you're
currently in is set to display for instance. Instead of just
complaining about it not being there, I went on a hunt for it, and
finally managed to find it, took a while but I got it. It's in the
views tab of the ribbon, it says something about options, gives a
description for what the whole group is for, then it says options
split button. You hit that and it gives you a vertical list of a
whopping one item, change folder and search options. You can reach
it by pressing the alt key and releasing it, then pressing and
releasing v, then y, then enter. I'd have found it quicker if I'd
have slowed down and listened to everything JAWS said before I
pressed tab in there, I must have went through that tab of the
ribbon several times before I found it.
Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable
On 2/15/2014 7:18 PM, Josh wrote:
I really like windows7 personally. I had linux for a month or two
and went back to windows for the games and all the voices it offers
and screen reader choices, too.
using windows7 laptop
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