I think asking "how much does a controller cost compared to a keyboard" is just a bit unfair. if you think about it, just about every computer has a keyboard already with it, where as very few will come with any form of dedicated game controller as standard. it is also like asking the proverbial "how long is a piece of string", as prices vary so much. when I was looking on ebay, the prices ranged from next to nothing, right up to quite a few hundred quid for something like the saitek system I mentioned.
Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 3:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] controller versus keyboard - Re: saitek pro flightsystem? Personally, I think that both keyboard and controller support should be included in games. Having said that, using a keyboard, can you dive while also turning when maneuvering a submarine? How about with a joystick? Maybe, to spark interest, what are the advantages of using a game controller compared to what can be done with a keyboard? And how much does a good controller cost compared to a keyboard? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] saitek pro flight system? > Shaun, > > That's where we differ in opinion. I came from the mainstream video > game world, and grew up on joysticks, gamepads, and so on and I can > tell you straight up front that using a keyboard is a drastically less > intuitive and less flexible mode of input. I'm sure your opinion that > keyboards is all a blind user needs has been shaped by the game's > currently on the market that do not truly harness the power of the > joystick or gamepad. While understandable it is wrongheaded and it is > exactly opinions like yours why some blind game developers don't > develop more games that exclusively harness the power and advantages > of a joystick or a mouse for that matter. > > For example, I can say what the general reaction of the blind > community would be if I, as a developer, did so. Let's say I right > this really cool game, but design it where a joystick or gamepad is > required. I'd never hear the end of moaning, and groaning over the > fact I did not adequately support the keyboard, that they don't have a > joystick, that they don't have money to buy one, etc. What seems to be > missing in all this complaining and moaning and groaning is the point > I was trying to introduce a more mainstream mode of input that is > often times much better than the one they want. I know this because I > remember the wining and complaining people made when Che Martin > introduced the mouse support in Rail Racer and Aprone did so in Swamp. > Given that kind of negative attitude to change why bother trying to > raise the standard of audio gaming if people are just going to wine > about it? > > Don't mean to go on a rant here, but your attitude that a keyboard is > all a blind person needs for gaming lacks any kind of experience with > the many ways it could improve audio gaming. That it would be easier, > more intuitive, and over all offer newer and better ways to do things. > You need to consider the advantages of the alternatives rather than > just assume audio gaming can not and will not be any better than it is > right now. In short, if mediocre games is all you want from developers > that's all you will ever get. > > > Cheers! > > > On 8/5/14, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote: >> I had an old force feedback stick before these were fashonable >> however I got rid of it because I wasn't using it. >> Apart from 3d verlosity which I havn't really mastered that well I >> have not managed to really get into the habbit of using a stick for >> anything else. >> I have a mouse and since swamp one of the only games that used it is >> payed and I don't spend the time to really do it justice, I have >> decided to leave that to. >> I still think for us blind people that a good basic keyboard is all >> we will ever need. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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