I wish I came from your background tom.
Yes there were consoles, but no one had the cash to own one yet alone
set one up.
This is not really a sob though it may sound like it but before 1993
I never used any computters at all.
No one did, the family got their first system in 1995 before that we
had an old box we used for games and dad had a couple of older
laptops I used to turn off and on.
I got my first real computer in 1995 and everyone got online in 1997.
between that and 2003 we used dialup.
And since I had a dos system my games came from dad's and friend's
floppys and cds.
When it all went down the tubes I had old dos and some windows games
using the keyboard.
I have never been man enough to try to really use a joystick for
games myself or a mouse or even a touchscreen.
Most of my childhood was on nothing at all and later on it was the
keyboard all the way.
In fact so much so that unless I have a keyboard in front of me I
find things so forign that I end up reguarding everything that is
not a keyboard or not using windows totally crap probably because I
never worked up the strength to try to use one of had the chance so I
guess if I had started with a mouse or stick earlier in life that it
makes a difference.
And while I may go on boasting on all my projects probably part of
that is so I look good i guess.
Che did say once when he got mad once with me going off the top was
that I was still fresh still new.
At the time I thought he was a stupid idiot but he is right in a way.
For the 30 years or so of my life I have only got into computers for
the last 20 and really realistically have only got into my own with a
keyboard interface for the last 10 years and got to where I can say I
can use a system reasonably in the last 5.
I don't pretend to be smarter than some of the guys on here because I
am not in some ways.
I say the keyboard is better because all other experiences I have had
with other devicfes didn't work out.
Maybe some day I will have to try again or maybe I will learn I have
always wanted to do so.
But as long as there are ways to play with a keyboard then I will
probably always do so.
The same goes with my phone a touch screen makes me so uncomfortable
that I'd rather have a keyboard phone.
I envy those that have had the experience and have managed I right
now don't feel i could may never do so.
Pluss my friends and family have no idea how I would manage touch
either having not experienced how blind people would interact with it
themselves.
I have barely touched console games.
The only games I have played are interactive fiction and the old
blind games of the early 90s and 2000s to draw on which is not that much.
Even with the stuff I do now its all for the keyboard and while swamp
was with the mouse I really never mastered the game fully.
One of these days that may change who knows.
At 07:57 p.m. 8/08/2014, you wrote:
Shaun,
That's where we differ in opinion. I came from the mainstream video
game world, and grew up on joysticks, gamepads, and so on and I can
tell you straight up front that using a keyboard is a drastically less
intuitive and less flexible mode of input. I'm sure your opinion that
keyboards is all a blind user needs has been shaped by the game's
currently on the market that do not truly harness the power of the
joystick or gamepad. While understandable it is wrongheaded and it is
exactly opinions like yours why some blind game developers don't
develop more games that exclusively harness the power and advantages
of a joystick or a mouse for that matter.
For example, I can say what the general reaction of the blind
community would be if I, as a developer, did so. Let's say I right
this really cool game, but design it where a joystick or gamepad is
required. I'd never hear the end of moaning, and groaning over the
fact I did not adequately support the keyboard, that they don't have a
joystick, that they don't have money to buy one, etc. What seems to be
missing in all this complaining and moaning and groaning is the point
I was trying to introduce a more mainstream mode of input that is
often times much better than the one they want. I know this because I
remember the wining and complaining people made when Che Martin
introduced the mouse support in Rail Racer and Aprone did so in Swamp.
Given that kind of negative attitude to change why bother trying to
raise the standard of audio gaming if people are just going to wine
about it?
Don't mean to go on a rant here, but your attitude that a keyboard is
all a blind person needs for gaming lacks any kind of experience with
the many ways it could improve audio gaming. That it would be easier,
more intuitive, and over all offer newer and better ways to do things.
You need to consider the advantages of the alternatives rather than
just assume audio gaming can not and will not be any better than it is
right now. In short, if mediocre games is all you want from developers
that's all you will ever get.
Cheers!
On 8/5/14, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had an old force feedback stick before these were fashonable
> however I got rid of it because I wasn't using it.
> Apart from 3d verlosity which I havn't really mastered that well I
> have not managed to really get into the habbit of using a stick for
> anything else.
> I have a mouse and since swamp one of the only games that used it is
> payed and I don't spend the time to really do it justice, I have
> decided to leave that to.
> I still think for us blind people that a good basic keyboard is all
> we will ever need.
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