agreed! I also originally came from things like the sega megadrive and Saturn, before good accessible games came out. one can pick up a reasonable joystick or controller for a good price, especially somewhere like ebay, so the "don't have the money to get one" argument just doesn't hold water. given that with a keyboard, one is always having to remember which keys do something in a game, which gets harder and more confusing the more games one has, I would say that having joystick/game controller access can only be a good thing, as one wouldn't have that issue then.
Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] saitek pro flight system? Shaun, That's where we differ in opinion. I came from the mainstream video game world, and grew up on joysticks, gamepads, and so on and I can tell you straight up front that using a keyboard is a drastically less intuitive and less flexible mode of input. I'm sure your opinion that keyboards is all a blind user needs has been shaped by the game's currently on the market that do not truly harness the power of the joystick or gamepad. While understandable it is wrongheaded and it is exactly opinions like yours why some blind game developers don't develop more games that exclusively harness the power and advantages of a joystick or a mouse for that matter. For example, I can say what the general reaction of the blind community would be if I, as a developer, did so. Let's say I right this really cool game, but design it where a joystick or gamepad is required. I'd never hear the end of moaning, and groaning over the fact I did not adequately support the keyboard, that they don't have a joystick, that they don't have money to buy one, etc. What seems to be missing in all this complaining and moaning and groaning is the point I was trying to introduce a more mainstream mode of input that is often times much better than the one they want. I know this because I remember the wining and complaining people made when Che Martin introduced the mouse support in Rail Racer and Aprone did so in Swamp. Given that kind of negative attitude to change why bother trying to raise the standard of audio gaming if people are just going to wine about it? Don't mean to go on a rant here, but your attitude that a keyboard is all a blind person needs for gaming lacks any kind of experience with the many ways it could improve audio gaming. That it would be easier, more intuitive, and over all offer newer and better ways to do things. You need to consider the advantages of the alternatives rather than just assume audio gaming can not and will not be any better than it is right now. In short, if mediocre games is all you want from developers that's all you will ever get. Cheers! On 8/5/14, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote: > I had an old force feedback stick before these were fashonable > however I got rid of it because I wasn't using it. > Apart from 3d verlosity which I havn't really mastered that well I > have not managed to really get into the habbit of using a stick for > anything else. > I have a mouse and since swamp one of the only games that used it is > payed and I don't spend the time to really do it justice, I have > decided to leave that to. > I still think for us blind people that a good basic keyboard is all > we will ever need. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
