Hi Shaun, That explains alot of why you feel the way you do about joysticks, keyboard, mice, etc. However, Che is very much correct. From a mainstream gamer's perspective you are still something of a newbie, have very little practical experience with mainstream gaming, and for that reason regardless of the how and why of it you are far behind mainstream gamers. Your experiences, or lack there of, have give en you a very limited perspective on gaming and how much better a joystick or mouse can be when playing games.
For instance, in the mid 90's when you got your first computer a lot of mainstream gamers, myself included, had already had plenty of experience with other consoles. I myself am a child of the 80's so played the Atari 26000, Ataari 7800, the Collecovision, the original NES, and the Super NES all by the time you got your first computer. Not only that, but I also played my fair share of Dos games like Duke Nukem, Overkill, and other games of that era. So by 95 or 96, when you were just starting out, I was already into a number of the big PC titles of the day such as Jedi Knight, Dark Forces, Doom, Tomb Raider, Mech Warrior, and so on. I had a Logitech Wingman joystick I used faithfully with those games. So obviously I cut my teeth on the best games that were available for the time when you were only playing around with text games or whatever. Although, we come from two totally different experiences I don't see why any of this means you have to not try to expand your experiences. All this talk about not having enough strength or not being man enough sounds like excuses to me. Anyone can do anything they want to do if they want to. Let's face it your real reason is you don't want to and are too apathetic to really sit down with the new technologies and learn to use them. Until you deal with your apathy and do it you will never go beyond your current skill level. In short, it doesn't matter of how early or late you begin learning to use the new technology the important thing is if you seriously want to do it or not. As long as you come up with excuses not to do it you won't. cheers! On 8/10/14, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote: > I wish I came from your background tom. > Yes there were consoles, but no one had the cash to own one yet alone > set one up. > This is not really a sob though it may sound like it but before 1993 > I never used any computters at all. > No one did, the family got their first system in 1995 before that we > had an old box we used for games and dad had a couple of older > laptops I used to turn off and on. > I got my first real computer in 1995 and everyone got online in 1997. > between that and 2003 we used dialup. > And since I had a dos system my games came from dad's and friend's > floppys and cds. > When it all went down the tubes I had old dos and some windows games > using the keyboard. > I have never been man enough to try to really use a joystick for > games myself or a mouse or even a touchscreen. > Most of my childhood was on nothing at all and later on it was the > keyboard all the way. > In fact so much so that unless I have a keyboard in front of me I > find things so forign that I end up reguarding everything that is > not a keyboard or not using windows totally crap probably because I > never worked up the strength to try to use one of had the chance so I > guess if I had started with a mouse or stick earlier in life that it > makes a difference. > And while I may go on boasting on all my projects probably part of > that is so I look good i guess. > Che did say once when he got mad once with me going off the top was > that I was still fresh still new. > At the time I thought he was a stupid idiot but he is right in a way. > For the 30 years or so of my life I have only got into computers for > the last 20 and really realistically have only got into my own with a > keyboard interface for the last 10 years and got to where I can say I > can use a system reasonably in the last 5. > I don't pretend to be smarter than some of the guys on here because I > am not in some ways. > I say the keyboard is better because all other experiences I have had > with other devicfes didn't work out. > Maybe some day I will have to try again or maybe I will learn I have > always wanted to do so. > But as long as there are ways to play with a keyboard then I will > probably always do so. > The same goes with my phone a touch screen makes me so uncomfortable > that I'd rather have a keyboard phone. > I envy those that have had the experience and have managed I right > now don't feel i could may never do so. > Pluss my friends and family have no idea how I would manage touch > either having not experienced how blind people would interact with it > themselves. > I have barely touched console games. > The only games I have played are interactive fiction and the old > blind games of the early 90s and 2000s to draw on which is not that much. > Even with the stuff I do now its all for the keyboard and while swamp > was with the mouse I really never mastered the game fully. > One of these days that may change who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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