Hi Tom.

I admit I'm not keen on the grue in mutants either. They're held to be a race of aliens who live on the moon and are the principle reason that earth hasn't got intersteller contact with other alien races as they are pretty much at war with most everyone off earth. They are mysterious in that they're shape shifters and so can either disguise themselves or become animals or monsters and battle, but they just don't fit the idea of "grue" to me either.

Personally, if I ever wrote a serious book or other story that featured a grue, one of the most key points is that it would never be seen or understood.

Btw, I actually should sit down and read more books by Jack Vance just becuase I'd be interested to see where D&D etc got their ideas from. Unfortunately, I've only red one book by him, his sf story Araminta station, and in usual fashion the Rnib over here only did the first book of the trilogy (which also ends on a cliff hanger), though the ideas in that book were still rather interesting, for example a rather isolated race of humanity who become close to a sub species due to alien conditions, or a aristocracy based on people's genetic closeness to an original colony team, and on the basis that the team only has a number of positions which must be filled by members of the correct family and anyone surplus to requirements or failing tests will be exiled from the planet. Anyway, this discussion has drifted a little off topic for a gaming list so probably ought to stop.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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