Hi all,
I just wanted to chime in with a quick word regarding the warning on the
website. We feel that the warning is clear, easy to understand and
prominent enough to not be missed. It is in the original post on both
this list and the audiogames.net forum, and on the website before you
download the game. We feel that having you click a button to agree that
you are 16 or older would not really serve any useful purpose since the
warning is there in black and white so to speak. In short, we have done
all that we can reasonably be expected to do to make people aware of the
nature of the content in the game, and anything beyond that is up to the
individual.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
On 5/1/2015 10:07 PM, dark wrote:
@Desiry, in fairness to Jeremy his objection to the game is based on
it's actual content and the motivation of it's characters, not just
it's depictions of violence.
Jim kitchin's games are all clearly marked as adult, indeed they're in
a separate part of his site from his other games and on audiogames.net
they're listed as "Adult xxx" with clear warnings in the description,
---- and yet actually we have still had a couple of complaints (though
I have a sneaking suspicion those were from people who downloaded the
games without reading what they were before hand).
As a side scroller, even as a side scroller with weapons and
action,Psychostrike is rather more innocuous, sinse the area under
scrutiny is the senselessness of the slaughterings and crimes
involved, not intrinsically their depiction.
I'm not going to get into the debate again about this, but in fairness
I can see why perhaps a more prominant warning on site might be
useful, perhaps one contained in some of the links, eg list the game
as "psycho strike game with extreme violence" or have a confirmation
message box with the warning text somewhere rather than listing the
game next to other innocuous titles like paladin of the sky and
adventure at C:.
Once the warning is displayed however, what people do is their affair.
Heck, I suffer genophobia and could not play one of jim Kitchin's
adult games without extreme discomfort, but thanks to the warnings I
have never had to, either deliberately or by accident, which is really
all you can say.
All the best,
Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is
vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars
than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
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I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes
you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to
bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think
that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this
game as well.
I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the
content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games
are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to
hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather
disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that,
I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt.
Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these
games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it.
Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was
released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a
previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her
friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this
game is free, relatively small, and easy to access.
So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable
content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about
similar objections that were raised?
On 5/1/2015 11:54 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Paul,
You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be
unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to
decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or
view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game
developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being
viewed.
For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every
time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains
sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least
18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what
content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of
the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners.
With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult
interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer
that prompts the user to enter yes or no if they agree to the terms.
After the user types yes and agrees to the terms of service it becomes
his or her own responsibility what to do with the content.
I think a similar warning system could be implemented in games like
Psycho Strike that serves the same purpose. When the game is first
launched it will let the user know this is an extremely violent game,
is not suitable for people under 16, and have them agree to the terms
of service. After that there is really little anyone can do to make
sure that someone who is age appropriate plays the game.
Cheers!
On 5/1/15, Paul Lemm <paul.lem...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a
child is old
enough to be allowed on a computer unsupervised to download and
view what
they choose then there are a lot more worrying things online than a
violent audio game. Just on uTube alone there is I'm sure more
graphic and
inappropriate content which is just a click or 2 away from anyone
accessing
a pc. I think this is the responsibility of a parent to teach their
children what they are allowed to view online, I think the fact
that the
game warns people is amble to warn anyone of what is to be
expected and
people can choose to either download or not and if people choose to
ignore
the warning that is their choice and if it's a child too young to be
exposed
to this kind of game I question whether they should be allowed to
freely
view the web unsupervised as mentioned previously there is a lot
more not
only inappropriate but dangerous content accessible online. also with
grand
theft auto that to can be brought online through ps online or the xbox
store either as the game or as a free demo and although I haven't
checked
I'm pretty sure there will only be a warning there
Regards
Paul
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