Hi Thomas,
I can respect your position about this, and I also think that most kids
shouldn't be playing a game of this nature.
I think what I'm objecting to is more the fact that, no matter how many
hoops you make someone jump through, people are going to access it who
probably shouldn't. So the whole debate is actually pretty pointless,
and is serving no real purpose. I was merely stating my opinion, because
I think that, even if I strongly disagree with the way Jeremy chose to
bring this up on list in the first place, you both are entitled to feel
the way you do about the game and its content. It's not for everyone,
that's for sure.
As for the justification, it makes sense that a storyline should have
been included in the game, but before you start, it says, "for reasons
only known to you" or something to that effect. Which I took to mean,
"fill in the blank with your own scenario." Which is exactly what I did.
I'm not saying that should make others feel better if they find the
content objectionable, but for me at least, I could sit here and come up
with 20 different scenarios about why this character did what he or she
did, each one crazier than the last. It's part of what I enjoy about the
game, to be honest.
As I said to Dark in a previous message, I realized my error about the
adult games on Jim Kitchen's website. It had just been a long time since
I'd looked at the site, and I didn't know they had been moved. So I
apologize.
On 5/1/2015 5:23 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Desiree,
I think during the debate we had on list a couple of days ago Jeremy's
actual point got lost in the discussion. The basic point he was
getting at was there was a lot of senseless violence without any kind
of justification or reason for it. When you enter the party it gives a
simple statement to the effect "you don't' know why but you just
started killing people at a party." His point was that is no
justification, no reason to, go mindlessly kill 10 people. If he plays
a game he wants to know why he is doing it, and have some better
justification for it.
In my personal case I was objecting more to the violence itself. Like
Jeremy I'd like to have some better justification or reason to kill
people, even virtual people, than just because I decided to go do it
for some unknown reason. I also think it is a poor game design, and
should be corrected. Moreover while I was playing I just felt
uncomfortable playing the game because in my mind it was wrong, I felt
dirty, and uneasy about mindlessly going around killing people. I
don't feel that way when fighting my way through hoards of zombies,
robots, or some other non-human enemy so my objection is more about
the ethical conflict I had with playing the game.
As for Jim Kitchen's games they aren't mixed in with his other games.
He has appropriately moved them onto a page of their own and there is
no way for someone to download one of his games without knowing they
are adult content. So you seem to be slightly misinformed about where
they are located on his site.
In any case I am unsure why they haven't generated more debate. The
only thing is I figure the adult members of this list and the Audio
Games Forum don't find them that objectionable. I certainly don't have
any objections over them and wouldn't have any reason to complain
myself.
Cheers!
On 5/1/15, Desiree Oudinot <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you
agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother
me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's
overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well.
I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the
content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games
are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide,
because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather
disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that,
I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt.
Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these
games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it.
Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was
released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous
message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought
they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free,
relatively small, and easy to access.
So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable
content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about
similar objections that were raised?
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