Because you're copying someone else's work? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Forcing accessibility
> but only blind people would be playing the games. And if you don't make > money off it and give the original developers credit in the accessible > games > how could it still be copyright infringement? > > Josh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Forcing accessibility > > >> because that's copyright infringement >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Forcing accessibility >> >> >>> so if we can't get the developers to make their games accessible, why >>> not >>> rip the audio from the mainstream games and make our own accessible >>> versions >>> with audio game maker? >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Forcing accessibility >>> >>> >>>>I get asked the same questions, and what you said is right on. The fact >>>>is >>>> is that our market just isn't big enough. I few years ago I was on the >>>> phone with a korg representative and we were discussing my korg x5. I >>>> pointed out that it would be great if there was some sort of module >>>> that >>>> made the korg speak. he said that he agreed with my thoughts, but the >>>> fact >>>> was was there was no market for that. We need to think in terms of >>>> market >>>> strength. I know the number of blind to sighted is very small, and >>>> even >>>> those who play video games is smaller still. I don't want to say it's >>>> a >>>> lost cause, but I'm not losing any sleep over whether or not I'll be >>>> able >>>> to >>>> play the next big release. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:15 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Forcing accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> Sorry, I am very late to this party, but you really must understand >>>>> there is no way we can force developers much less game companies like >>>>> activision, Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft Game Studios, to do anything. >>>>> Especially, since we are a minority group with very little cash >>>>> potential. In fact encouraging them with a good persuasively drafted >>>>> position is the only way to even get started. >>>>> You can get started by becoming part of and supporting groups like >>>>> IGDA >>>>> which is already attempting to do just that. Put together articles, >>>>> code >>>>> examples, etc to bring to the big name developers and their companies >>>>> to >>>>> promote more accessible game design implementations. >>>>> Unfortunately, we also have to increase our ranks and have a higher >>>>> number of statistics to show these companies. While Audyssey is a very >>>>> active community we have on this list at most 200 to 300 members at a >>>>> time. Now, assuming every single one of us bought a mainstream game >>>>> made >>>>> accessible for $45.00 that only comes to $13500 total for 300 units >>>>> sold. That little amount of cash won't interest a company. The average >>>>> dev for those companies triples that amount in his or her salary. >>>>> Ok, from speaking to my fellow ag developers we estimate the total >>>>> market strength right now at 2000 products sold by any one accessible >>>>> company. Using our example of $45 times 2000 units sold $comes to >>>>> $90000. Looking better, but certainly not enough to interest a >>>>> mainstream company which is grossing millions on Doom III, Jedi Knight >>>>> X, Castlevania X, etc... >>>>> I grant you if Activision or another big company like Microsoft put >>>>> out >>>>> an accessible game they could probably Brose more than $90000 since >>>>> they >>>>> have channels to market to a wider audience. However, once you start >>>>> ticking off the numbers like who does not have computers, who is old >>>>> and >>>>> elderly who is likely to be disinterested, and so on the numbers of >>>>> potential customers shrinks rather rapidly. >>>>> A statistical fact here is the majority of those blind in the US is >>>>> those who have lost their sight later in life do to many common issues >>>>> involved with old age. Having younger people with vision impairments >>>>> is >>>>> a significantly smaller group than the elderly with vision >>>>> impairments. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>>>> visit >>>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>>>> any subscription changes via the web. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>>> visit >>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gamers mailing list .. 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