Andy, why do your messages make me suspicious of something? I don't know 
what exactly, but just something. My advise, spend less time worrying about 
security this and security that, and go buy games and shop online. and if 
something happens, do like I did and change your credit card if you have 
one. If I were as paranoyed as you seem to be I probably wouldn't even own a 
computer or if I did I wouldn't have any type of internet access at all. Are 
you going to get rid of your internet access someday because it's just not 
safe?

Josh

Most of the reason I don't like spam is because a lot of it is true.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] not necessarily true - Re: Fw: piracy of games?


>I know, that game devs wont use that info against us. Now if I took
> the time to actually learn a programming language, I am starting easy
> and trying to make  simple things with autoit, so I can build up, and
> then create some games. I wont even bother to secure them. Just type
> in some random letters in a generated email or something. But, I know
> game devs wont use that info. But if anyone here listtens to security
> now which is at grc.com/seciritynow, you will know that there are
> quite a lot of exploits in SQL databases, etc. And the fact that Liam
> makes everyone type in their names and email addresses makes me even
> more nervous. So? You wont give it away, I trust you liam. But,
> hackers anyone? Ever heard of them? Anyone know what they do, ever
> thought of them? Well probably not; I got this rediculious spam book
> that showed how to break into databses and stuff. I wont do it of
> course, but it is amazingly easy to break a script and get to the
> underlying info. Reaking havoc with people's information is not good
> at all. If you dont believe that any server, any server even paypal is
> at risk. I probably sound paranoid and I wouldn't blame you for
> thinking that, but it makes somee feel nervous. If you have a firewall
> antivirus, nope; no good on web pages. Think your secure if you've got
> the latest windows patches? Nooooo. Microsoft has  failed to release
> patches to hundreds of things. And now we're drifting  off topic with
> windows security. While I agree with everyone here, that paying for a
> game is of utmost importance, and I honestly would pay for a game, I
> really would, but you really dont know what's under the hood.
> Think about that, the next time you pay for a game. And if you think
> your safe if you've got that padlock icon and the https://blabla.bla?
> Well, not really.
>
> So think about that the next time, you do online shopping. I even
> heard of awful stories of people's stuff getting robbed and stolen.
> And no matter how much security is in place, there is always a way.
> Thats the only reason for my cracking stuff. And surely others as
> well. Also go to twit.tv if you dont believe my blabbing. Its not
> really blabbing though. But still if you still think that you are
> safe. Well. One day itll happen. Im sure of it.
>
> On 7/2/07, Charles Rivard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Some people live on very small incomes, and they find it very difficult 
>> to
>> even save a few dollars every month.  So to say that anyone can afford 
>> $30
>> to $40 is sometimes not true.  I know.  I've been there.  I was living on 
>> a
>> monthly income of $700, $375 of which went toward rent.  Then there were
>> electric bills, phone bills, Internet bills, water bills, gas bills,
>> groceries including dog food for my guide, the occasional vet bill for 
>> the
>> guide, and an occasional unexpected expense or so.  After all that, every
>> stinking month, guess how many games I was buying??  Absolutely zero!,
>> --
>> Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction
>> listen to weather forecasts and economists?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: piracy of games?
>>
>>
>> > no it doesn't. Especially when paying for a $30 or $40 game. Anyone can
>> > afford $30 or $40 and if they can't then I'm sure someone else could 
>> > buy
>> > it
>> > for them.
>> >
>> > Josh
>>
>>
>>
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