Hi Thomas,
Yes, I doubt that I would have copped an attitude if like you have done now,
researched and stated that all older games are going to have this problem
rather than seeming to single out my games. I mean look at the subject line of
this thread. I have seen people on this list be hesitant to install my games
because of the things that you have said about them. Just like when you
decided to install my games in a manner that they were not designed to be and
started the whole discussion about my install program in my winkit.zip file.
In both cases it was because of the way that you set up and run your computer,
but you put the blame on my games. I would wager that the vast majority of
people who play accessible games are not going to set up and run multiple user
accounts as you have done and thus they will not have the problems with my
games as you have been posting about on the list. I know at this point I
should not get started on how much and badly you have put down my choice of
programming language or your complaint about not being able to change my sound
files, but I definitely have felt the need to call you on your inaccurate
statements about the problems with my games that you have then retracted or
amended.
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Hi Jim,
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> I'm thinking that this would be the same for any and all games that write to
> a file such as a save game file, a log file, a records file or whatever right?
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I've just tested this with several other games and you are correct.
Allot of older accessible games are going to be facing this problem
under Vista. The issue is that Vista and XP are more multiuser
environments than say 98. If you run a game as administrator they will
work ok. However, if you setup a multiuser environment such as I have
for myself and my wife and then the games are going to encounter
difficulties. Especially, with non-administrator users.
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> As far as I know just about every single game does this. So I am thinking
> that this is not a problem with my games, but a problem that Vista creates
> and thus the Vista user is going to have to learn to deal with it not only
> for my games but for all games.
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Yes and no. With Windows 98 it was not real important where you saved
your game settings since 98 was meant for single users, and less a
multiuser environment. With Windows 2000, XP, and Vista all program
settings should go into the
c:\Documents And Settings\User Name\Applications Data
folder rather than being saved to the applications root directory.
Saving to the applications root directory is fine if there is only going
to be one user account on the system, the administrator account, as the
user will have the rights to save to that application root directory. If
more than one user is setup then the game has to use the user's
Application Data folder instead.
I've checked out montezuma's Revenge, and truthfully I made the same
mistake as everyone else. However, I am now researching the issue, and
trying to see how to make the game operate in a multiuser environment
rather than a single user environment.
Bottom line, it is a problem with your games in that they were not
designed for networked or multiuser setups under Vista which is now the
rule and not the exception to the rule. I made the same mistake, and I
understand where you were coming from in designing your games as you did.
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> And truthfully you are the first to mention this and I know many people
> that are playing my games in Vista. Plus you didn't even have this problem
> before in Vista with my games.
> End quote
>
I didn't have this problem before because I had Vista setup as a single
user environment, and I was playing the games using the administrator
acount with administrator rights. I am suspecting the user's you have
just mentioned were doing the same. They don't have a multiuser
environment configured thus never encountered the issue.
However, Microsoft does state that using the system in this way is less
secure than a standard user account for day to day tasks and an
administrator account for system changes.
As for the tone of this message I'm not sure, but I sense some anger or
friction in the way you worded your responces. All I will say is that my
intent was not to flame, anger, put down, or in anyway put you or your
games down. I merely was offering information about the problem i found,
and I gave you three possible solutions to the problem users could try
if they encounter the same issue I am having with your games in a
multiuser environment.
Jim
If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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