thats true.
I myself will upgrade when I have to.
since I don't really work in an office or anything It may be ages 
before I bother with it all.
I use xp and it suits my needs for now.
Eventually when I really need to get something faster than this 
2.4ghz system I may upgrade, even then I may stay with xp if I don't 
extra features.
At 12:50 a.m. 22/09/2007, you wrote:

>you bring up a good point Tom. With vista the standards have changed
>on how things are done. Not just the few games you found have the
>save problem, but many out there will have that problem.
>On another list a problem was with a console program in c++ on vista.
>it was solved with installing the libs for direct x8.
>Just like cars advancement now. You wouldn't expect a mechanic of the
>50's to work on your car of today with all the computer stuff on it
>now. its impossible. programing is the same. if you want your stuff
>to work you have to keep at least within the current releases of ops.
>Some may not like vista, but its here and they either learn how to
>work with it or get left with the old dos stuff that won't even run
>on boxes of now.
>No use in arguing the point vista is here and its up to those that
>have programs that want to work under vista or not, because
>eventually just because of the problems they will get left behind
>just like dos!
>
>At 05:18 PM 9/20/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >First, i think I should clarify a couple of things. Just in case anyone
> >gets confused here is  clearer explanation of what I was talking about.
> >In Windows Vista all applications typically save their settings in the
> >c:\Users\User Name\App Data folder,
> >which use to be the
> >c:\Documents And Settings\User Name\Application Data
> >folder under Windows XP,
> >and where Vista expects to find settings for games, and other programs.
> >Each user should have his her on local settings rather than globally
> >saved to say
> >c:\Program Files\Kitchensinc.
> >However, if you have Vista setup as a single user, only one account, you
> >should haveno problems with any games since you will have Administrator
> >rights. However, if you have multiple user accounts then you are going
> >to encounter problems with several accessible games and not just
> >Kitchensinc games. Any game that needs to write to the
> >c:\Program Files\
> >directory to save a game, save settings, will be denied by user accoun
> >control for non-administrator accounts.
> >The solution I propose in that case is to install the games locally for
> >a user in some place such as
> >c:\Users\Your User name\Games
> >where  "Your User Name" is the user name of the person you are
> >installing the games for.
> >For example, I put my kitchensinc games in
> >c:\Users\Thomas\Games\Kitchensinc\
> >and have an icon pointing to the winkit file. Since that is a local path
> >for my user name I have no problem saving games or changing game settings.
> >I had a similar problem with GMA's Tank Commander so I installed it to
> >c:\Users\Thomas\Games\Tank Commander
> >and now have no issues saving games.
> >I'll note I have my latop setup for multiple users. I am also running
> >without administrator rights because that is more secure, and aids inthe
> >provention of viruses, trogen horses, and other malware. It is to bad
> >not many of the blind users out there are aware of these security
> >measures, but anyway that is the way my laptop is setup.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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