It's not inexplicable, but way off topic. lol! If you're sighted, and someone doesn't acknowledge you by looking at you, then it looks as if they aren't aware that you're there... Thus a sighted person may speak loudly to a blind person, as if to get their attention or make them aware so to speak... If a blind person 'looks' in the direction of a sighted person, then you might notice more of a recognition / awareness on the part of the sighted person, that the blind person is also aware of them, and the sighted person may not do the whole yelling / raising the voice thing...
HTH Smiles, Cara :) On Jan 18, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Yohandy wrote: > Oh I know exactly what you mean. A good example that occurs often is > you > walk into a classroom, and you can just feel everyone holding their > breath > or something, and the noise level drops dramatically. Also they > won't talk > to you unless you speak first. perhaps those that used to have sight > could > explain this? Did you all of a sudden turn into a dangerous animal > when you > lost your sight? gees! lol. I also had the experience with sighted > people > asking others do I want this or that. I even had some people yell as > loudly > as possible because for some inexplicable reason, they don't know the > difference between deaf and blind. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Out of the games dimension > > >> Well, while i've certainly encountered the business you mention >> very often >> in real life, I've never come across it when dealing with game >> developers >> because (as I said), small devs of freeware and shareware games do >> tend on >> average to be quite a nice bunch. >> >> this is however where (just as in real life), a Vi person has to >> develope >> incredibly good communication and diplomacy skills, if they want to >> get >> anywhere something I fail at on multiple occasions. >> >> beware the Grue! >> >> Dark. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Out of the games dimension >> >> >>> Another issue I'm throwing out, and, please, I don't want to start a >>> debate >>> on the blind philosophy thing, but you know those types of sighted >>> persons >>> who someone, even if you've got a Masters degree and can do things >>> for >>> yourself, but you know when you need a bit of help or if you just >>> accidentally "meet" a sighted person and they somehow think that >>> because >>> you're blind there's something wrong with you mentally, what >>> effect does >>> that have on the whole games thing? OK, to break it down, let's say >>> you're >>> walking with a pal at Uni and you know the type of person, coming >>> along >>> and >>> asking your pal "how is he?" Starting with assumptions, believing >>> you >>> incapable of answering yourself. Now, some normal game developers >>> might >>> sort >>> of have this same perception when it comes to games. If someone >>> sighted >>> decides to do a "good deed" and makes a game for blind people, how >>> much >>> could it creep into his mind that somehow blind people might have >>> difficulties understanding the game, so he makes it very simplistic, >>> because >>> he somehow thinks that blind persons may also have mental >>> difficulties >>> based >>> on his assumptions? I know I'm not putting my point very clearly >>> here, >>> but >>> I >>> do think you guys sort of understand, it's about the whole thing >>> with >>> sighted persons attitudes to blind persons, and unfortunately some >>> blind >>> persons attitude to blindness as well. We're not just blind >>> people, we >>> also >>> have our different attitudes to stuff, and if you have a blind >>> person >>> with >>> a >>> negative attitude trying to show an audio game to a sighted >>> person, this >>> is >>> a problem. >>> Ari >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of >>> the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: >>> 17/01/2008 16:59 >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > . > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of > the list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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