Hello all, I lost my sight aa little over five years ago. Ever since then whenever I go to a store or anywhere people stare at me as if I was an alien. I hate it when I am standing right there and people will ask questions pertaining to me or my son to anyone but me. I also have people who cant get it right for some reason they cant remember if I am blind or deaf even when I am using my cane. It gets really annoying sometimes. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yohandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Out of the games dimension
> Oh I know exactly what you mean. A good example that occurs often is you > walk into a classroom, and you can just feel everyone holding their breath > or something, and the noise level drops dramatically. Also they won't talk > to you unless you speak first. perhaps those that used to have sight could > explain this? Did you all of a sudden turn into a dangerous animal when > you > lost your sight? gees! lol. I also had the experience with sighted people > asking others do I want this or that. I even had some people yell as > loudly > as possible because for some inexplicable reason, they don't know the > difference between deaf and blind. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Out of the games dimension > > >> Well, while i've certainly encountered the business you mention very >> often >> in real life, I've never come across it when dealing with game developers >> because (as I said), small devs of freeware and shareware games do tend >> on >> average to be quite a nice bunch. >> >> this is however where (just as in real life), a Vi person has to develope >> incredibly good communication and diplomacy skills, if they want to get >> anywhere something I fail at on multiple occasions. >> >> beware the Grue! >> >> Dark. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Out of the games dimension >> >> >>> Another issue I'm throwing out, and, please, I don't want to start a >>> debate >>> on the blind philosophy thing, but you know those types of sighted >>> persons >>> who someone, even if you've got a Masters degree and can do things for >>> yourself, but you know when you need a bit of help or if you just >>> accidentally "meet" a sighted person and they somehow think that because >>> you're blind there's something wrong with you mentally, what effect does >>> that have on the whole games thing? OK, to break it down, let's say >>> you're >>> walking with a pal at Uni and you know the type of person, coming along >>> and >>> asking your pal "how is he?" Starting with assumptions, believing you >>> incapable of answering yourself. Now, some normal game developers might >>> sort >>> of have this same perception when it comes to games. If someone sighted >>> decides to do a "good deed" and makes a game for blind people, how much >>> could it creep into his mind that somehow blind people might have >>> difficulties understanding the game, so he makes it very simplistic, >>> because >>> he somehow thinks that blind persons may also have mental difficulties >>> based >>> on his assumptions? I know I'm not putting my point very clearly here, >>> but >>> I >>> do think you guys sort of understand, it's about the whole thing with >>> sighted persons attitudes to blind persons, and unfortunately some blind >>> persons attitude to blindness as well. We're not just blind people, we >>> also >>> have our different attitudes to stuff, and if you have a blind person >>> with >>> a >>> negative attitude trying to show an audio game to a sighted person, this >>> is >>> a problem. >>> Ari >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: >>> 17/01/2008 16:59 >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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