Hi Shaun, Uh...no. BETA 15 was not stable. It was one of the BETAs that crashed because Thomas was using SFML. BETAs 16, 17, and 18 were all stable releases. I just hope that he finishes mOTA and Raceway, rejoins the list, or both of the above. Just a note, I just checked the site, and as of now, it is apparently closed. We will just have to see.
Best Regards, Hayden -----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm Leaving the List James north made some big mistakes though. The preorder thing was one of these things. Having and then not meeting deadlines was another. That was inexperience on his part but then we had never had any experience with this sort of thing. Mostly most of us are ok. There are a small few that would mangle things but its not that bad. If you view this as a vertual world we have a few issues, wars, etc. This is just a small one of these. If we are lucky tom will come back, it will blow over and it will be good. We have been at peace for at least 2-3 years maybe more maybe 10 or more or less at least 5, we will have more again. I have lost interest in mota myself but thats mainly due to the fact with my schedual and stuff I have really not had enough time to master the jumping systems. Pluss with the latest bits and bobs its a bit complex. In fairness tom is trying to make stuff that noone has. That essentually means he is on his own with the new ways. Ok, Though I have a few issues. I have never mentioned them but since this seems to be a time to pour out our rages I will. I dislike, no strongly dislike the fact that after getting a working system out for audio and things, that tom had to change things so much. Ok, I was not against the changes, technically these made sence, we need to keep updated with new technologies, its just the way of the universe. However to chop and change engines, libraries etc especially when you have taken on a project or 2 which are not your own, and then trying to make a multiplatform engine is probably not the best when you have everything working for you. For example, beta 15 of mota was quite stable. ANd I'd have probably left everything alone at least till v1 of the game came out then worked on trying to update things. All the hastles and issues, especially after the issues with sound in beta 14 and issues with crashes in beta 16. maybe tom was doing to much at once. I know my limits and I know if I do 400 things at once I probably would forget some of those. I often did when I did pascal and javascript programming. I'd frequently forget to to put capitals on var for instance or forget a output command or a variable. At 11:02 p.m. 20/07/2011, you wrote: >Some blind people and their oppinions forced James Nord to leave >this list, and now, after a few years Thomas Ward had to do the same. >Many people here should think of their behaviour and should leave >this list instead of Thomas. >I get many mails from this list per day and in about 80 percent i >have say that it is - just a rubbish. >Mesages from Thomas and the few other members belongs to that 20 >percent which are useful and it is not waste of time to read them. > So im seriously thinking of leave this list to, cause i am > very busy with my job, with mi family, and i don't have a time to > read only bullshits. > >On 20.7.2011 12:10, Thomas Ward wrote: >>Hi everyone, >> >>I just wanted to say effective immediately I am leaving the Audyssy >>list, am resigning as comoderator for reasons of my last post, and >>will likely be closing USA Games for a few months. I've reached a >>point where I can not exist on this list or any other list with >>certain members of this community, and I've been pushed personally >>beyond my ability to put up with the crap. I tried doing my best to >>give helpful information, to take extra time and energy to design the >>games the best I can, and apparently my best isn't good enough for a >>lot of people so its time to put away my keyboard and leave this >>community. >> >>Its time to say some of the things I have not said before, but they >>need said. I have worked as often as I can, as much as I can on MOTA >>and Raceway, but it is a long and tedious process for me. I don't >>always have time to work on them, and you have no idea how many family >>reunions, cookouts, etc this summer I've skipped to work on those >>games. For quite some time now I've spent so much time working on the >>games my marriage has been strained and stressed adding even more >>stress to trying to complete these games. Having the community e-mail >>me off list now and then asking me when will game x be done over and >>over again is bad enough. >> >>However, Che's e-mail was the braking point for me. I've always tried >>my best to give helpful suggestions, opinions of what programming >>languages and tools to use based on nearly 12 years experience in the >>business. Having been college educated in VB, C++, Java, etc I have at >>the very least an educated opinion for why I say what I say and do >>what I do. I've tried my best not to insult other developers, be fair >>when giving my opinions, but apparently Che and others decided to take >>it personally, in return insulted me, and that I can not and will not >>put up with. So I'm leaving. Either Che goes or I go, but we can not >>coexist on this list without killing each other first. 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