Do we seriously have to have this bash michael party every few month.
This is why I don't play your games or talk much because you guys are just 
looking for people to tear down.  That's why I will only ever play Jim"s games. 
 Cause as a developer he is the nicest guy I've met.  You guys need to quit 
being hatefully to the people who support you.  I think if moderators were 
doing their jobs the topic would have done been closes and changed.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:24 AM, "Clement Chou" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with both Thomas and charles. I'm on so many lists that if I see an 
> email I know I won't be able to read without taking a lot of time, I won't 
> bother. As I said earlier, it isn't exactly the hardest thing in the world to 
> proofread an email as you go. This makes yourself look better, and it takes 
> less effort for others to understand you, which means they'll be more likely 
> to want to listen to what you have to say.
> And to Joseph... this was never meant to insult Michael, simply our reaction 
> to his complaint about Mario's bad response to his continuous emails about 
> Silversword accessibility, which has lead to a discussion as well as an 
> attempt to educate some people on list who seem to have the same problem when 
> they post here.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?
> 
> 
>> I receive a few hundred Emails on most days, and there are some Emails that, 
>> when I see that they are written by certain people, I hit the delete key.  I 
>> already know that I won't be able to understand them because of their lack 
>> of communication skills.  It's not because they don't use English as their 
>> native language.  It's because they write horribly.  I, and others, used to 
>> try to help them become more understandable, but all they did was to get 
>> mad, and no improvements were made.  It's not because they can't, but 
>> because they! won't!  They just don't care.  As a result, even if I could 
>> help them through a spot in a game, or if I could help them with a problem 
>> with their computer, or if I could give them tips on how to barbecue, I'll 
>> never even see their questions, because they refuse to do even minor work on 
>> being understood.  It's their loss, not mine.  Sad, but true.
>> 
>> ---
>> Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> All good points. I'd like to add that I'm on a number of technology
>>> lists and forums, and I largely read and respond to e-mails based on
>>> reputation. By reputation I mean weather the person can write clearly,
>>> if there aren't a lot of grammar and spelling errors, and weather or
>>> not the e-mails use proper punctuation. Is that unfair?
>>> 
>>> No. Even using a screen reader like Jaws, NVDA, or Window-Eyes things
>>> like spelling errors, grammatical errors, and lack of punctuation make
>>> it difficult to listen to a poorly written e-mail. Lack of punctuation
>>> means the screen reader won't pause properly between natural sentense
>>> breaks and it makes it difficult to listen to the message. Spelling
>>> and grammar errors will cause the screen reader to say things
>>> incorrectly forcing me to stop the speech and review the line word by
>>> word to get the context of the message. If I have to do that with x
>>> number of e-mails waiting for me to read I'm just going to throw out
>>> and skip anything that requires extra time and effort to read. So my
>>> point here is it isn't just a case of sighted people doing this, but
>>> there are blind people such as myself who quickly toss out anything
>>> that isn't immediately clear from the start as well.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
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