Don,
Don, Don, :)
While
I can present you with several keepers in Europe with 100% legal animals from
the heyday of Phelsuma importation pre mid '90's (yes, both species you
listed) and the purchase of CB, this does not negate the current argument.
Current in the sense of "do not buy P.cepediana, P.ornata or P.guimbeaui
TODAY". You and I both know, as do most of the rest of this group, the
certain origin of the animals in question.
It is
prudent advice. Decrease demand and decrease the already high pressure on
wild populations, especially on habitat for P.guimbeaui.
I
eagerly await your study of a per hectare population dynamic study of both
species in question. :)
Jamie
-----Original Message-----Hello all
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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Gecko] Phelsuma imports and Parasite loads
Please refrain from buying P.cepediana, P.ornata and
P.guimbeaui as they are illegally collected and sold legally. Something is
wrong with some CITES authorities in Europe as they have been informed many
times about this. P.guimbeaui is more endangered than the Indian tiger!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
All I can say is this" Let him that is without guilt cast the first stone!" I
am growing tired of this sanctimonius way that some breeders have of wanting
to point fingers in any direction other then themselves! When they can show
me they dont have animals from dubious sources in their collections such as
Phelsuma serraticauda,flavigularis, etc that arent of recent importation I
will be happy to listen! I daresay there isnt a really good collection of
Phelsumas in Europe that isnt in someway tainted.
Phelsumas reproduce far faster then tigers do and I seriously doubt that they
are as endangered since the demand isnt what it is for Tigers on a worldwide
scale! This doesnt make the whole thing right by any means but me thinks thou
protests too loudly!:-)
Don Wells
There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The
few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
electric fence for themselves.
