In a message dated 1/31/01 5:46:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< 
 Again I can agree with you to the point that I, too, was convinced at that 
 time
 that I had bought CB animals which had had a lot of natural daylight and 
 lived in
 large groups, and therefore had the typical WC coloration and the wounds
 that many WC often carry away after smaller fights. And I talked to the 
 breeder
 personally several times at different occasions and was trusting in his 
words.
  >>
Hello-
I agree entirely with your post, Hartmut.
I would like to add that the animals I saw and bought 3 years ago were 
captive bred.
Seeing these latest imports only confirms this. The difference is striking.
Anyone with any small amount of experience with phelsuma can see in one 
glance that these imports are wild caught.
But I believe we can't be certain they are illegal. The way I read CITIES, 
any member nation reserves the right to set the quota for permits. CITIES 
requires permits for export. It doesn't set limits on exports. Any nation can 
grant -read SELL- unlimited permits. Perhaps this is how they got here.
Does anyone really know the import history of these animals? 
Anyway- good luck to anyone who bought some.
Jason

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