Thanks for the input.

Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Traher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting


> I agree the self ballasted mercury vapour UV lamps need to be used with
> caution.  With that said, I've used them extensively for the past 5 years
> and they are in a sense "the next best thing to the sun" (considering the
> sun rarely shines in Melbourne).  They are very useful in large enclosures
> with sun loving herps, even including some diurnal sun loving amphibians
> (Litoria raniformis).  The OSRAM ULTRAVITALUX that I use has a very narrow
> spread of UV.....as you deviate for the exact centre of the bulb,
centimetre
> by centimetre the output drops significantly......if you are 30cm from the
> centre of the bulb, the UV level is almost zero.  The main benefit over
the
> fluorescent lamps, is they throw UV up to meter away.  At 45cm from an
> unexposed bulb the UV output is comparable to a Melbourne summer day
between
> 8-9:00am.  I have had no problems using them.......they were used to fill
a
> deficit that the fluorescent lamps couldn't fill.  The behaviour, and
> associated microhabitat needs to be researched and the enclosure set up to
> mimic it, such as places to get away from UV etc..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Magnus Myklatun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2002 10:53
> Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting
>
>
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > >For UVB lighting, they are the next best thing to the sun.
> >
> > Now I hate to argue, but I don't agree with the argument that this is
such
> a
> > good thing. It's true that these lamps do create more UV than others,
but
> > reptiles in the wild are not exposed to the UV from the sun constantly.
> They
> > spend time in and out of the shade, and some diurnal reptiles spend the
> > hottest part of the day (which is when the UV output is the greatest)
> hidden
> > away from the sun.
> > Secondly, usually the figures that are used to compare UV output from a
> lamp
> > to the sun is numbers taken at noon when the UV radiation from the sun
> would
> > be the greatest. It's not noon all day, so the UV numbers from the sun
can
> > be misleading. The effects of increased UV radiation without the shade
> that
> > reptiles can escape to in the wild, may include the same problems as
> > excessive UV exposure in humans.
> > These UV bulbs are probably very effective in large, zoo-type exhibits,
> but
> > in my oppinion, to strong for the average reptile enclosure.
> >
> > >chuckwallas which have had a remarkable response to these bulbs. They
> >had
> > >an increased appetite and started breeding like crazy. The 5% UVB
> > > >fluorescents did not even compare to these.
> >
> > This sounds more like a benefit from added UVA, not UVB...
> >
> > >One should avoid eye contact with these bulbs. This can be done
> > >by a proper set up.
> >
> > But they are ok for a reptile's eyes???
> >
> >
> > Magnus
> >
> >
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