Melody, That is a great point, things would need to be set up. In a way where the geckos would go to the people in the GGA that already work with geckos that have the same needs. Where I live, I could care for a good number of Phelsumas (Florida has sun 90% of the time) the more hard core phelsuma could go to people like Julie B. I work more with cool temp geckos, so Uroplatus would do fine here inside, and could also go to peopl that live up north. But it is still a great point, and something that would have to be worked out first. SJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melody Hartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Gecko] Phelsuma confiscation rumor
> Hi all, > > A couple more points about the TSA and why I think it is relevant: It > was set up fairly recently, mainly to get confiscated animals into the > hands of dedicated hobbyists, since there is a lot of expertise in the > private sector, and zoos often don't have the space and personnel to > adequately deal with lots of unexpected animals that need specialized > care. This seems to me to be the very situation that the GGA is in now! > > Melody > > Steve Jacobs wrote: > > > > Yuri, > > I think that is a great idea, I live only 30 min. from MIA, and have > > contacts in the Customs Clearing House. As for FWS I also have contacts with > > them. If this is something the GGA wants to do, as a member I will make the > > first contacts here. We can try it and see what becomes of it. > > Please give me any info andor inpit you may have. And I will go from there > > Steve Jacobs > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yuri Huta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [Gecko] Phelsuma confiscation rumor > > > > > I am assuming this was a United States incident? > > > > > > In an unrelated taxa incident, a shipment of South American frogs was > > > recently apprehended at the border and confiscated, including > > > Dendrobates histrionicus (poison arrow frog which has been disappearing > > > from known locations) and thankfully all were diverted to the National > > > Aquarium in Baltimore. Hopefully the Feds will do something similar. Any > > > idea at which entrance point? Maybe if the geckos still are alive, some > > > type of agreement with FWS and zoo can be reached. > > > > > > Could this be some type of outreach GGA could do? that is, work with FWS > > > so that any confiscated geckos are put into the hands of experienced > > > people and all is not lost? As a growing and respected organization, we > > > could have contacts at the major entrance points' (i.e. JFK airport, > > > Miami etc.) FWS office and the animals could be put into responsible > > > hands? I know, I know, wishful thinking, but thought I would bring up > > > this point. There was something similar done with a confiscated shipment > > > of turtles in the Hong Kong (?) they were intercepted and are being > > > diverted to a recognized facility in Florida. The people in Florida may > > > have some insight in how to become 'recognized' by the FWS to be > > > considered if such an unfortunate event were to occur again. > > > > > > Do any of the GGAers in non-US locations know of such arrangements in > > > their home countries? > > > > > > Yuri H > > > > > > John Heiser wrote: > > > > > > > > I heard that a major madagascar shipment was confiscated but hadn't > > heard the > > > > outcome. The shipment supposedly had serraticauda, flavs, and barbours > > (sp?). > > > > It would be a real show of mankind's stupidity if they were euthanized. > > Send > > > > them to zoos if you must (to me if you can't find a zoo). > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > Julie Bergman wrote: > > > > > > > > > I got a phone call today from a gexer friend that there is a rumor > > that > > > > > some Phelsuma were confiscated and euthanized, anyone know anything > > > > > about this? I sure hope it is not true! > > > > > > > > > > Julie Bergman > > > > > http://www.geckoranch.com > > > > > GGA lifetime member > > > > > > > > > > > > ########################################################################### > > > > > THE GLOBAL GECKO ASSOCIATION LISTSERV > > > > > WebSite: www.gekkota.com Archive: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > > > The GGA takes no responsibility for the contents of these > > postings. > > > > > > > ########################################################################### > > > > > > >
