Hi Neil and Nathan

My experience with coccidiosis parallels Nathan's, although my coccidia
experience is mainly with agamids.  The best treatment is certainly
eliminating stress.  I have tried most of the coccidia medications and had
the best results using Baycox (tultrazuril) 25 for chickens (there is also a
50 for piglets) The dose is 10mg/kg, then a second dose 14 days latter.
While treating I ensure the individual is super-hydrated.  I have had good
success with that treatment and it usually will result with negative (or
greatly reduced) faecels.... although I think it is dubious that any of the
medications eliminate coccidia.  If the stressing factors is not eliminated,
most treatments have poor results and/or another outbreak will occur.


Russ



----- Original Message -----
From: "nathan hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2002 6:43
Subject: Re: [Gecko] Gecko coccidiosis/online herp vet?


> Neil,
>
> I have treated plenty of geckos that had coccidian infestations, but these
> animals always seem to carry small loads of coccidia.  I have tried both
> Albon and Septra, and these meds do help to knock the numbers down.
> Unfortunately, fecals will often come back positive no matter how long one
> treats for coccidiosis.  The three negative fecal rule does not apply when
> trying to eradicate this protozoan.  Quite frankly, I am happy when the
> numbers are in a low range in some species.  I make sure that I give some
> yogurt to any geckos that I am treating with Albon to increase depleted
gut
> fauna.  I am not saying that one cannot successfully treat geckos with
> coccidiosis, but I do believe that this opportunistic parasite causes
> problems for geckos that are easily stressed (i.e. Uroplatus,
Holodactylus,
> etc.).  I would say that most captive gecko collections have the
occasional
> coccidian outbreak.  I know that I will probably get some heat for this,
but
> I rarely treat geckos with coccidiosis anymore.  I first treat the
> underlying problem that is stressing the animal, and this, in turn, causes
> the levels of coccidia to fall well within an acceptable range.  I have
> treated some geckos for coccidiosis and fecals were negative for months
> post-treatment, then they test positive again.  It used to drive me crazy
> until I began to rethink my approach to the treatment of  this parasite.
> For example, chronically bullied geckos (usually female) sometimes tend to
> have higher numbers of coccidia until they are separated from the
aggressor.
> Treatment = removing the gecko from the stressful situation.  Of course,
> this is all theoretical, but I do feel that this has made a difference in
> the approach to the treatment of this protozoan.  Aside from methodically
> cleaning and washing all of my cages on a regular basis and using common
> sense to prevent disease transfer (washing hands, using latex gloves,
> quarantining animals), I attempt to keep all of my geckos in ideal
> conditions to prevent the spread of coccidiosis due to stressed,
> immunosuppressed, and OVERTREATED geckos.
>
> Nathan S. Hall
> GECKOS UNLIMITED
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil A. Meister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Gecko] Gecko coccidiosis/online herp vet?
>
>
> > Hi Russ,
> >
> > 3 days on Albon at 50mg/kg, 3 rest and 3 more on
> > and 6 days straight when the first routine did not work.
> > Both helped, but did not eliminate
> > coccidia in all cases. So far it looks like 3 out of
> > 8 geckos have been successfully treated.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > >Hi Neil, out of curiosity what treatments have you tried?
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >
> >
> >
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