On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM, John Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 2, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Dan McMahill wrote:
>
>> I guess I haven't found the fog to be any thicker or clearer than any
>> number of programming languages.
>
> It takes Kundert and Zinke *43 pages* (mostly of sales pitch) before
> they actually get to a circuit in their Verilog-AMS book.

I read through the pdf excerpts on the webpage and didn't find what I
read that bad as the book is targeted towards readers with little or
no experience with HDL modelling. 43 pages out of 260 may be a little
too much, though.

>
> I learned enough Fortran to write my first program (a simple
> numerical integration code) from a six page mimeographed handout...

Isn't Fortran pretty simple? It is a bit comparing nuts and bolts to
to a truck as numerical calculus is just a part of the game. You got
to give people a bit motivation *why* taking the effort to spend time
on learning a new way of circuit modelling. With Fortran you had
either pen and paper or the computer and a simple programming
language. No concepts, just plain algorithms. But maybe I am wrong.

-- 
Svenn


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