So you think we might get more done if we have the common sense not to discuss politics and religion?
Fred > Hi everyone, > > Apologies for my bad English. English is not my mother tongue. > > Let us not use this mailing list to discuss religion. Let us concentrate > on > strategies to improve participation of women in Wikimedia projects > instead. > > Thank you > > -- > Netha Hussain > User: Netha Hussain > Student of Medicine and Surgery > *nethahussain.blogspot.com > swethaambari.wordpress.com* > > > remember that women's rights are way, way more important than > the interests of Wikimedia Foundation. > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Ryan Kaldari > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Just wanted to say that I didn't take any offense from Michael's >> comments. I was probably a bit out of line in my characterization of >> Christianity. I was just trying to point out that any religion, when >> taken literally, can be problematic. There were actually many books >> published during the American Civil War about how the Bible endorsed >> slavery. They make a convincing argument if you accept all of their >> Bible quotes taken out of context. >> >> The part about women being subservient is actually quite pervasive in >> the bible, both old and new testament. See: >> 1 Peter 3:1-6 >> 1 Timothy 2:11-14 >> Colossians 3:18 >> Ephesians 5:22-23 >> 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 >> 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 >> Isaiah 19:16 >> Deuteronomy 22:20-21 >> Genesis 3:16 >> Genesis 2:18 >> This is certainly not a novel interpretation. Indeed it seems very >> difficult to argue that the Bible does not consider women subservient >> to >> men. >> >> The part about beards is Old Testament and only taken seriously by >> Orthodox Christians, Amish, Mennonites, etc. >> >> The part about putting adulterers to death is also Old Testament and >> obviously not taken seriously by most Christians, although John Calvin >> did argue that the Bible justified the death penalty for adultery (as >> have other Christians historically). >> >> All that said, I am not trying to imply that modern Christianity is an >> oppressive religion. I'm just saying that historically, it has a few >> skeletons in its closet and it went through some serious growing pains, >> as is Islam. >> >> Ryan Kaldari >> >> On 9/23/11 7:00 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote: >> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Emily >> Monroe<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Michael Lowry, what you just said was said was sarcastic and >> potentially >> >> uncivil. >> > So Ryan and Carol can lie about MY religion, and I'M the one accused >> > of incivility? >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
